Barry makes some good points (I forgot about insterts) I guess my whole arguement over spec tires comes down to one question Why did Proline, Losi, and others stop developing touring car tires? An already flooded market? Anyone thoughts on this? I still think they should sperate the classes better. On entriely diffrenet subject I finally broke 90 on the golf course the other day. As a fellow golfer I thought Barry could appercate that.