Originally Posted by
fredswain
Waaaaay back when the XX was new? Holy cow, that's not way back. I started racing a Tamiya Fox before I got an RC10. It was the new ground breaking fast car that came out a year earlier. The 80's were exciting times in rc. If I could go back to then and do it all over again, I'd give up everything we have in rc today and do it in a second. The car to have was the RC10 and nearly everyone had one although there were a few Ultimas here and there. You could have 30 RC10's there and they were all different. You'd have a graphite chassis and wide front arms on one car, a graphite chassis with a wide front end but narrow front arms, a red Hot Trick chassis that used the stock aluminum nose, the stock tubs cut up and drilled with any number of lightening holes. You'd have 3 or 4 different styles of trailing arm rear suspensions. You'd have cars with belt drive or even chain drive gearbox conversions. Some cars ran all 1.6" wheels. Others ran all 2" wheels. Some like myself ran the 1.6's in the back and 2's in front. I could go on an on. You'd see a dozen different name brand motors. No one had the same setup and no one ran anyone's else's setup. You figured things out on your own. There was no copying some team drivers setup. RC today is downright boring and I personally consider the direction that off road has gone today to be a bad joke played on the hobby. It doesn't encourage learning or experimenting. When you have someone that does, you get ignorant people that criticize them saying it's a waste of time because manufacturers and pros don't do it that way. That's WHY you do it!
I was one of the first people at the track here with a JRX2. The week I saw it I got one. Multilink rear suspension, a 20 degree front kick, and a short wheelbase. Unfortunately I bought it because it was the new big deal. I only won 1 race with it. It was a B main dirt oval race. The only dirt oval race I'd ever done. I didn't know what I was doing back then but on my limited lawn mowing budget I couldn't afford to do too much anyways. I still have a JRX today. 2 actually and enough spares to build at least another. Still got an RC10 too. I could probably build 2 of them. Until a year ago my NEW car was a XX! My current race car I'm playing with is a mid motor XXX. We run on hard, sometimes loose clay. I'd rather race on the old loamy soft rough dirt tracks of the old days. Our cars ran about 20 mph and it was more fun than anything today. I miss those days.
I started with a Hornet and graduated to the trailing arm JRX2 ... and I go off on this same tangent often at the track, basically paraphrasing what you said here until the guy/gal I'm speaking to rolls their eyes and walks off. Hard to miss what you never had in the first place.
Also, many thanks for this thread. One of the most enjoyable and informative I've read anywhere, on any r/c topic! I'm whipping my vehicles into shape like I never knew possible without *extensive* trial-and-error.