First day test with the serpent when good the car had lots of corner speed and was very predictable easy to drive hard.. Of course first pack out I did strip servo horn even with the super glue trick.. But I found a racer edge alum. servo horn that worked perfect. also had the motor move on a hard case hit. but thats it. Had a couple of local sponsered guys drive it the consence came back best 1/8th scale yet.. My buddy has the Mugen ECO it's very stable and easy to drive slow but is hard to push and drive fast and has no corner speed compared to the snake.. and as for the Losi 2.0 I just got rid of the snake is better everywhere......