Mine was in the 1670g area with HV 60c stick packs. With the shorty i'm at 1537g, and looking to go lower(seems like the fast locals are close to 1600g). I want to be at the 1500g legal limit then tune the car around the weight. I know the weight makes it more stable, but i want to try and make the shorty pack work because we all know lighter cars are faster cars. I raced with it last weekend and came in 6th out of 12 or so cars, with some terrible first few laps. I'd also like to buy 2 scales, weigh each corner with stick pack and shorty, get the car to 1500g while maintaining the same percentages of each corner, or close to it. Basically making it lighter as a whole rather than just the back end.