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Old 01-13-2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizchief
Could that also be the cause of the push out of the corner? Seems like Cyote and I have the same problem and, and both running 30wt up front.

I tried mine out tonight at the local carpet & plywood track this time with 7k in the front diff and it cut down on the push but still had just a bit more than I wanted. Gonna try putting in 25/20 and now that I have proper diff grease see what that does.

Also with my setup it seems like i'm getting too much weight transfer to the rear, allowing the fronts balloon going down the straights where I would rather that power be going to the rear where there is more traction. what is the best way to combat that effect? Maybe try the 19t pulley in the rear?
Coyote, have it your way i was just trying to find the source of your problem that you asked for help with. I am moving on, let us know what fixes your problem.

Mizchief, its hard to say without seeing what your truck is doing how to fix it but in general you will get more exit push due to the wieght transfer and the dif. tuning is a compromise game, i can tell you how to eliminate it but then it will push on entry and you will have slower laptimes. You are exit pushing because now you have much more rear traction than before and the truck is not rotating on exit where as before your truck was "sliding on exit". There are a few ways to help with this one being your Roll center shims. Adding to them lowers the roll center which will give you more push on entry and more steering on exit. I run 5mm on mine. Toe in will aslo give you less entry steering but more exit steering, i run 1* of toe in on my truck.

Now onto your weight transfer, if you run the 3-3 block it will put more traction on the front and increase on power steering. But you must understand that as it is right now if you add any more rear traction the front tires will come off of the ground. Thats how a dif works, when the front tires are ballooning that means that there is max traction at the rear which goes back to why you are having exit push!!

Shock oils with the 2 stage pistons: to get the maximum potential you want to run the oil as light as you can get away with on a rough track (tight high grip is a different story). i have posted many videos of my truck jumping, landing , turning and 95% of those vids are 25/20(the other 5% are 17wt!!). My latest video (the montage) even has slow motion of jumps with flat bottom landings and the truck is no where near "slapping" or getting upset. Lately i have been running front and rear shock mounts outside on the arms. Strictly on the subject of piston reactions, running the shocks on the outside speeds up piston action and because of the way they work (piston clap) the faster they move ,the more they will pack.

The pistons actually have four stages of action. compression, rebound, low speed pack and high speed pack. Once again if you refer to the videos you will notice that no matter how high i jump or low i jump the truck settles the same way at the same height! Running thicker oils (remember when i was testing V2 piston) simply doesnt work as well no matter what size holes i would drill. So what you are doing by running 30 wt is overpacking the large jumps, it will be fine on med jumps and every where else but they will actually hydro lock for a millisecond before releasing and this will upset the truck more so than and occasional slap. If your trying to tune your truck around one or two jumps on the track you will suffer everywhere else. Even if you do slap with the 2 stage since the rebound is quicker it will not upset the truck near as bad as single stage pistons.

hope this helps
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