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Old 11-17-2008, 07:28 PM   #1
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What needs to be done to increase steering for 2WD Off-road buggies like the AE B4 (Besides the EXPO settings on the radio)?

It seems that the car is pushing. Does having a softer front suspension or having a harder suspension increase steering? Lighter or heavier shock oil? Raising or lowering the shock collars?

Would this be the same for 4WD off-road buggies and on-road touring cars?

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Your sway bar might be really tight and along with a heavy oil and strong springs your car will have pretty bad steering. try with just adjusting your sway bar to be more loose, then if that doesnt work try a lighter oil then if that doesnt work then losen your springs a little bit. if that all doesnt work try a new servo lol
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I think this question might get answered faster in the B4/T4 section in off road electric.

As for the 4wd/tc question. The B4, and 4wd's are really different in the way your going to drive and set them up for better steering. I've found a lot of the time steering can be improved with front diff adjustments, throttle control, weight changes, swaybars and of course shock settings/oil/springs.

look for a factory team drivers setup online and use that as a starting point.

BTW I don't think this is a Rookie level question

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B4s have sway bars?
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( i didnt know if they did or not)
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Yes you can put sway bars on B4/T4 pn# 9635
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If your track surface is hard like clay and not loamy try the 8175 front tires from pro-line, they are the standard width front tires not the wide fronts, they will give you more steering and make the car more precise.
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If your track is loamy then stick with the wide fronts but see if they are worn out, front tires get overlooked alot.
As far as set-ups go, try the cavaleri trackside set-up found on rc10.com
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What needs to be done to increase steering for 2WD Off-road buggies like the AE B4 (Besides the EXPO settings on the radio)?

It seems that the car is pushing. Does having a softer front suspension or having a harder suspension increase steering? Lighter or heavier shock oil? Raising or lowering the shock collars?

Would this be the same for 4WD off-road buggies and on-road touring cars?

Thanks!

By the looks of the rest of your stable and previous experience I think you've found that your B4 handles differently than anything else you've driven. And they do, it's the nature of 2wd offroad. I think you'll find that while 4wd and TC behave to changes in the same manner, any set-up parallels will not transfer to your B4 as they generally IMO require a complete opposite set-up.
As pyro18t suggested, go to one of the FT sites like rc10.com and start with one of the team driver set-ups. At the same time also be aware that because of the nature of the car you will have to adapt your driving style to the vehicle instead of the other way around as no matter what you do to a 2wd it will be a push-monger.
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You can add more neutral brake with your speedo, that can often help an off power push.
I had to do this when switching to lipo.
I was able to drive it alot more aggresive, almost like my 4wheeler
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Just a quick guideline for how shock setup affects handling:

Oil weight and shock setup affect handling like so:

Heavier oil weight
1. Stiffer damping.
2. Slower weight transfer.
3. Vehicle reacts slower to input.
4. Reduced chance of bottoming out.

Lighter oil weight
1. Softer damping.
2. Increased traction.
3. Faster weight transfer.
4. Vehicle reacts faster to input.

Not much experience with 2WD handling... but the above basics should still apply for the most part.
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There are so many factors that affect handling, you can't just pin it down to one area. Like said before, a 2WD buggy is out on it's own for setup requirements. I just go with the Pro's set-up sheets at twiddle from there.

One thing that helped me get a lot more steering was having zero toe, or slight toe out. NEVER have to in on a 2WD buggy, it's useless.

Also a bigge is ride height. Having your front arms below level will give you more steering. just not so good off big jumps obviously.
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One more thing to check is your diff. If the diff is too tight (posi) the rear won't allow the car to turn tight as you'll have two big tires forcing it to go straight while the two narrow tires are trying to change direction.
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i run a t4 and when i need more steering, the fastest way is to loosen front springs (turn the collars to go up towards the cap) and tighten the rears (collars towards the ground) a little bit at a time until it turns like you want. Depending on how much adjusting you do you might even want to change springs. If you need any other help just let me know, i would be glad to help.
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