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RedBullFiXX 03-22-2016 01:00 PM

Ahh the good old days of injections,melted cell wraps, and other such tricks...

Andy Koback 03-22-2016 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 14459351)
No maximum charging curent either so people were peaking with 40amps or more.......

I don't recall any chargers being capable of doing that back then.

Roelof 03-22-2016 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Koback (Post 14459417)
I don't recall any chargers being capable of doing that back then.

There were chargers capable of parallel charging and people were using car batteries with a direct connection to add some peak voltage.

Matt Trimmings 03-22-2016 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 14459351)
No maximum charging curent either so people were peaking with 40amps or more.......

And those cells were much more likely to go boom than lipos. I blew a nimh cell once....started hissing on the bench and I grabbed it with pliers and took it outside, just as I got outside one cell went boom. Sounded like a shotgun blast. All the internals of that cell went somewhere.

Dave H 03-22-2016 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Koback (Post 14459417)
I don't recall any chargers being capable of doing that back then.

Some power supplies have enough control to be used as chargers. Mastechs for example. Although I've seen it done with more common supplies too. Where I've seen it is in drag racing. Cells would be barrel shaped, crazy.

Sean Cochran 03-22-2016 01:46 PM

IFMAR Rule
 
2.4 Individual cells used in the construction of the battery pack shall be rated at:-
LiPo a maximum of 3.7 volts nominal,
LiFe a maximum of 3.3 volts nominal.
Individual cells may be wired in parallel.
- For 2S packs: the maximum “In Series” is two, to give a pack voltage of maximum
7.4v nominal for Lipo packs, or maximum 6.6v nominal for LiFe packs.
- For 1S packs: the maximum “In Series” is one to give a pack voltage of maximum
3.7v nominal for Lipo packs, or maximum 3.3v nominal for LiFe packs
Cells with a nominal voltage of 3.8V may be used as from 2017 provided that a majority of
manufacturers has them available). The maximum charging cut-off voltage remains at
4.20V. per cell

This is the updated IFMAR rule, EFRA and ROAR are using similar language

Sean Cochran 03-22-2016 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX (Post 14459021)
I am positive it is not 100%

many interesting points of view in this thread ...

What I think Rick meant
"If you havent been teching already there is a 100% chance SOMEONE at your club has already been over charging packs not designed for it anyway."

I know he did not mean 100% of people racing are overcharging.

RedBullFiXX 03-22-2016 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sean Cochran (Post 14459493)
What I think Rick meant
"If you havent been teching already there is a 100% chance SOMEONE at your club has already been over charging packs not designed for it anyway."

I know he did not mean 100% of people racing are overcharging.

We really need to find a clever way to check this
Some way there must be something like a meter, that reads volts or something :p

Shawn_S 03-22-2016 09:00 PM

What does everyone think of Amain/Chad Bradley's thoughts on LiHV?
http://www.insidelinerc.com/off-road...hv-technology/

They seem to really push the less prone to puffing, and longer life/more cycles angle. This would be big news for those of us using shorties and for 4wd SC.

billdelong 03-06-2017 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Shawn_S (Post 14460067)
This would be big news for those of us using shorties and for 4wd SC.

Why? Folks are still griping about making 8 min mains in my area when there's no reason why we can't go 10 min with a larger capacity pack, shorter mains is what is killing 4WD SC :(

While researching some LiHV shorties for my stock classes, I came across this review on AMAin:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/reedy-z...c27305/p539041


Originally Posted by Keith Polk
puffed after 6 charges charging at 1c on a cell pro 6)

I can only question what car he was running his pack in???

IMO, shorty's have no business in any 4WD platform based on a 1/8 buggy :(

Santi 04-03-2017 06:37 PM

December 28, 2016
In light of IFMAR and other organizations allowing high voltage (3.8v 1s/7.6v 2s nominal) lipo batteries with the stipulation that the current charge termination voltage remain the same (4.20v 1s/8.40v 2s maximum), ROAR will follow suit allowing HV lipos at 3.8v nominal per cell starting January 1, 2017.

IFMAR:
Cells with a nominal voltage of 3.8V may be used as from 2017 provided that a majority of manufacturers has them available). The maximum charging cut-off voltage remains at 4.20V. per cell

Slashripper 07-24-2018 05:21 PM

So are some guys charging to over 4.40 per cell on LIHV packs?

the rc guy 07-24-2018 06:11 PM

4.35 max anything else is a danger to person charging and those around. why do some feel its necessary to overcharge batteries.?

urnotevenwrg2 07-24-2018 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by Slashripper (Post 15267130)
So are some guys charging to over 4.40 per cell on LIHV packs?

iChargers can be set to 4.4v per cell if you have the latest software. Junsi charger are ce certified, which means they have legal consequences for making something unsafe. If charging to 4.4v per cell made charging that much more dangerous, they legally could not have released that software.

Which charger can be set to charge higher than 4.4v per cell?

billdelong 07-25-2018 06:33 AM

I have seen some locals charge their LiPo packs in NiMh mode to boost voltage, I think they watch the voltage and will manually disconnect when they are satisfied with the reading... I have no idea what voltage they are charging to but on occasion there have been guys who forgot they were charging in NiMh mode and left their packs unattended and the packs went up in flames inside the pit room :(


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