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hyperdive08 02-28-2016 12:55 PM

Orion duo touch overcharging problems.
 
I have an orion touch duo charger that is overcharging by a good bit.. I set 2 cell battery to peak at 8.4 v. On techs volt meter it is reading 8.68 . I get same on MY volt meter.

Anybody else having the same problem?

K_King 03-05-2016 11:58 PM

I think it was an issue prior to the 2.1 patch but should be fixed now I believe.

mick33b4 03-06-2016 04:16 AM

First question is to check balance connections. Pin it out at the battery, balance port, etc. Use a paperclip, or something small so you can reach in with everything connected. I've had balance cables go bad, and the net effect is the charger seeing a lower voltage than is actually in the battery. Also, had balance wires fail inside the batery.

Lowefishme 03-06-2016 04:52 AM

Did you set the end charge voltage at 8.4v ? The cut off voltage is adjustable.

Geezatec 03-06-2016 07:55 AM

Most chargers has Balancing Charge. Chargers peak out at 8.4v. I think all lipo's are not equal. It charges to the average of the 2cells. 8.69v for both cells, if you check out the voltage in Balancing mode, 1 cell could read 4.34v the other cell could read 4.05. It'll be the average of to cells total.

If you cycle the pack, it'll even itself out. Most chargers cycle 3 to 5 times charging and discharging, function cam take up to 10hrs or more. I do it 3x every 6- 8 week depending on usage.

Chargers are the same, difference is cosmetically. Function are the same. They came a long way, to keep it safe in the hobby. Good question to ask. Storage of lipo, I think should be taken, store the @ 1/3 the capacity, fully charged and stored could be the problem of puffing up or ballooning.

Be safe!! have fun!!

Dave H 03-06-2016 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Geezatec (Post 14432802)
Most chargers has Balancing Charge. Chargers peak out at 8.4v. I think all lipo's are not equal. It charges to the average of the 2cells. 8.69v for both cells, if you check out the voltage in Balancing mode, 1 cell could read 4.34v the other cell could read 4.05. It'll be the average of to cells total.

If you cycle the pack, it'll even itself out. Most chargers cycle 3 to 5 times charging and discharging, function cam take up to 10hrs or more. I do it 3x every 6- 8 week depending on usage.

Chargers are the same, difference is cosmetically. Function are the same. They came a long way, to keep it safe in the hobby. Good question to ask. Storage of lipo, I think should be taken, store the @ 1/3 the capacity, fully charged and stored could be the problem of puffing up or ballooning.

Be safe!! have fun!!

A correctly operating balance charger controls the voltage of each cell individually. Not the average of the cells. It's the fundamental concept of a balancing charger.

The available lipo chargers vary by far more than cosmetics. There are significant differences in performance, capability, adjustability, etc.

Dave H 03-06-2016 08:10 AM

For those having issues, contact service and see if the charger can be calibrated. I know some can be adjusted to get into spec.

hyperdive08 03-08-2016 01:58 PM

Problem persists.... can't seem to get an email back from orion.....

oldernoob 03-09-2016 05:34 AM

is it the two channel charger? If so, does it happen on both channels? I think the Hitec and Orion touch series chargers are just badged versions of the same thing (i could be wrong).
Swap the balance leads and or balance board/check resistance of them. to eliminate the possibility of that affecting charging.

Also try charging another type of battery and see if the charger voltage/battery voltage are different as per LiPo.

hyperdive08 03-10-2016 07:45 AM

Tried different balance boards, and leads. Does it on both channels.

Also updated firmware.

oldernoob 03-10-2016 09:09 AM

Oh dear...that's not good news.

brians11 03-10-2016 11:51 AM

Hit the "+" on the main screen, then select charge end voltage, then adjust down and check again after a cycle.

kevntri 09-09-2016 07:14 AM

Sorry to bring back an old post,
But mine is doing the same thing. It charged two batteries up to 4.34v/cell.
Called Horizon and was basically told sorry no warranty for Orion.
I said I understand but can I send it in to be repaired.
Sorry, don't repair electronics.
He said especially on older model products.
I said a 1 year old charger at this price should not be considered older.

Any thoughts???

the rc guy 09-09-2016 08:33 AM

is your charger registered if yes go to team orion.. go thru the steps.. read in past there was a software update and a way to adjust look on youtube

fievel 11-30-2016 11:54 AM

I recently updated my duo touch charger software to V2.8. It is now over charging my batteries. The cells are coming off a 4.28-4.33v. It even puffed one of my newer batteries. I have confirmed that the end voltage is 4.20 and that I am not charging in HVLipo mode.


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