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the wrench 05-25-2015 09:31 AM

cheapest tablet/android device to run hotwire?
 
ive been trying to figure out what would be the cheapest option to run the hotwire app, im kinda screwed, mac computer, ipad, and a blackberry

id literally be using the "device" only for programming my esc's, maybe firmware updating my other non tekin esc's, radios, charger.. im aiming at a dedicated hotwire, r/c only "computer"

cheap means under 50 bux if even possible, i dont really care for brand, features, just the most bare bones i would need to connect at a super cheap price

Roelof 05-25-2015 10:50 AM

On ebay and some local shops you can find white label 7" Android tablets.

Jerm13 05-25-2015 06:25 PM

I use my phone. Galaxy 3s. It was free at Verizon but because it has been outdated by the Galaxy 4, 5 and now six.

You can get a cheap Android smart phone with WiFi and use that. $20 on E-bay...

But the only time I use my HotWire is to set my turbo. Everything else is done with the buttons...

uscgretired 05-25-2015 06:36 PM

I was in the same boat, I bought this RCA tablet for $39.95, it works fine with Hotwire.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/38693696?w...682752&veh=sem

the wrench 05-27-2015 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by uscgretired (Post 14025233)
I was in the same boat, I bought this RCA tablet for $39.95, it works fine with Hotwire.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/38693696?w...682752&veh=sem

quad core with one gig ram, and flash storage???? for 40 bux!.... haaahaaaa amazing

hows the battery life?

uscgretired 05-27-2015 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14028423)
quad core with one gig ram, and flash storage???? for 40 bux!.... haaahaaaa amazing

hows the battery life?

I keep it plugged into the charger, toss it in my pit bag when I go to the track, may or may not use it at the track, when I get home it goes on the charger. Honestly have no idea how the battery life is but seems like I noticed it was only down a little when I plug it in back in the charger, I always use an iPad, only use that device for my Tekin stuff.

the wrench 05-27-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14025214)
I use my phone. Galaxy 3s. It was free at Verizon but because it has been outdated by the Galaxy 4, 5 and now six.

You can get a cheap Android smart phone with WiFi and use that. $20 on E-bay...

But the only time I use my HotWire is to set my turbo. Everything else is done with the buttons...

problem with phones is you have to jailbreak em to run as a non cell connected computers, would be awesome as a programing aid due to size, i was almost ready to buy a laptop, due to price, than i thought, thats just too much to be seen with... im not that serious, but i wanted to have full scope of options to tinker with...

its really just to change the bec voltage and play with timing curves as i have 3 cars running tekin stuff, the buttons have been fine to this point but i need access to what the buttons wont cover...

the wrench 05-27-2015 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by uscgretired (Post 14028482)
I keep it plugged into the charger, toss it in my pit bag when I go to the track, may or may not use it at the track, when I get home it goes on the charger. Honestly have no idea how the battery life is but seems like I noticed it was only down a little when I plug it in back in the charger, I always use an iPad, only use that device for my Tekin stuff.

just thinking for outdoor where i have no a/c to run stuff, kinda just pack for the day without chargers and such, so if its wiped for bare bones use, would last the day on standby

uscgretired 05-28-2015 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14028593)
just thinking for outdoor where i have no a/c to run stuff, kinda just pack for the day without chargers and such, so if its wiped for bare bones use, would last the day on standby

It will last for the day, I will unplug it and let it sit for 24 hours to see what happens.

Lil Paul 05-28-2015 08:26 PM

I have the hotwire software working great on my Galaxy Note 3. Thats if you needed confirmation regarding Android device. I am also an Apple Die-Hard. I actually run Parallels on my macbook pro and have win8.1 and win7 virtual machines running on my mac. The hotwire app works great that way also. I was a little concerned it wouldnt because its a virtual machine, but havent had any issues. So the cheapest route is to install Parallels or Fusion on your mac, then windows and finally run the hotwire software that way. i dont pay for software, so that was the cheap route for me.

uscgretired 05-29-2015 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14028593)
just thinking for outdoor where i have no a/c to run stuff, kinda just pack for the day without chargers and such, so if its wiped for bare bones use, would last the day on standby

15.5 hours off charger and it is at 97%.

the wrench 06-01-2015 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lil Paul (Post 14030267)
I have the hotwire software working great on my Galaxy Note 3. Thats if you needed confirmation regarding Android device. I am also an Apple Die-Hard. I actually run Parallels on my macbook pro and have win8.1 and win7 virtual machines running on my mac. The hotwire app works great that way also. I was a little concerned it wouldnt because its a virtual machine, but havent had any issues. So the cheapest route is to install Parallels or Fusion on your mac, then windows and finally run the hotwire software that way. i dont pay for software, so that was the cheap route for me.

i have noooooo brand/moral ties to apple, the only reason their overpriced junk works so well is being linux based, but they figured out how to take away the beauty of linux and root control from a user, thats why apple is idiot proof... all my apple stuff is second/third hand so im no diehard, just like my toy cars, i rather use them that fix them... i as well dont pay for software, only because, it defeats the purpose of the user, i know people write this stuff.. but these days, who they write for pays salary, no independ dev guys to support and promote... so... to run a second os, have system conflicts... to program a toy car... is really too much work...

the wrench 06-01-2015 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by uscgretired (Post 14030595)
15.5 hours off charger and it is at 97%.

i was gonna bite, than i saw a bunch of reviews with the lipo giving out... is your tablet over 5 months old?

uscgretired 06-02-2015 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14035889)
i was gonna bite, than i saw a bunch of reviews with the lipo giving out... is your tablet over 5 months old?


Yes, received it end of Nov 2014.

LasagnaCat 06-03-2015 08:17 PM

http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...tablet_-_black

This little guy can be found on sale around the $50 mark every so often. It is a Windows tablet, so you can run the full Hotwire version. You'd be able to update firmware that you can't do from the Android app.

the wrench 06-18-2015 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by LasagnaCat (Post 14039196)
http://www.microcenter.com/product/4...tablet_-_black

This little guy can be found on sale around the $50 mark every so often. It is a Windows tablet, so you can run the full Hotwire version. You'd be able to update firmware that you can't do from the Android app.

i found one for pretty cheap, fingers crossed as im praying its not a mobile, restricted version of the os, so it can run the hotwire, also let me strip the os down to the bare minimum for more storage...its soooo hard to get actual "computer" details on these things, instead of reviews like "netflix is soooo awesome on this!"

i never thought id have to buy a microsoft product again... ugh... well, its for the greater good of my r/c love, ill stand the pain

Aswild 06-18-2015 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14024509)
ive been trying to figure out what would be the cheapest option to run the hotwire app, im kinda screwed, mac computer, ipad, and a blackberry

id literally be using the "device" only for programming my esc's, maybe firmware updating my other non tekin esc's, radios, charger.. im aiming at a dedicated hotwire, r/c only "computer"

cheap means under 50 bux if even possible, i dont really care for brand, features, just the most bare bones i would need to connect at a super cheap price

Pawn shops

LasagnaCat 06-18-2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by the wrench (Post 14059048)
i found one for pretty cheap, fingers crossed as im praying its not a mobile, restricted version of the os, so it can run the hotwire, also let me strip the os down to the bare minimum for more storage...its soooo hard to get actual "computer" details on these things, instead of reviews like "netflix is soooo awesome on this!"

It's full blown Windows 8, warts and all :)

If you let all the (Windows) updates run, you'll run low on HD space... there's a link online somewhere on how to clear up that space after the updates are completed. You can add an SD card, I think you have to tinker with the settings a bit to be able to install programs to that card... we just use it for the Hotwire and once in a blue moon the browser if it's already out.. for basic stuff it's fine. Only other comment is to maybe pick up a cheap bluetooth mouse, just makes things simpler because of the small (touch)screen size. Other than that, it will work for everything... settings, esc firmware updates, the display is large enough to use the data logger, etc.

the wrench 06-18-2015 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by LasagnaCat (Post 14059090)
It's full blown Windows 8, warts and all :)

If you let all the (Windows) updates run, you'll run low on HD space... there's a link online somewhere on how to clear up that space after the updates are completed. You can add an SD card, I think you have to tinker with the settings a bit to be able to install programs to that card... we just use it for the Hotwire and once in a blue moon the browser if it's already out.. for basic stuff it's fine. Only other comment is to maybe pick up a cheap bluetooth mouse, just makes things simpler because of the small (touch)screen size. Other than that, it will work for everything... settings, esc firmware updates, the display is large enough to use the data logger, etc.

im gonna try to kill as many "apps" as possible, so it runs barebones, been reading up as much as possible... to run it as hotwire/charger/off brand esc/ firmware/software tool...

its really as close to a computer you can get for sub 100 bux... thank you so much for the heads up!

the wrench 06-18-2015 02:04 PM

well for 65 bux plus shipping, i got a windows 8 tablet, a 64 gig memory card, a keyboard, mouse, usb hub and some cute fanny pack to keep it all in... god bless fleebay... i just dread going back to windows.. but hey, i can update my radios, esc's, my charger... my motorcycles, run megasquirt for my future car projects... its a shame i have 4 different devices now, to do what a "computer" of any brand should be ALLOWED to do... too bad i played networked doom instead of study in computer science... i wonder if it can run vrc?

the wrench 06-22-2015 09:06 PM

so being the tw700 has a full size usb, i dont need an otg cable... i have the original hotwire

Lil Paul 06-22-2015 09:35 PM

You dont need the otg cable. I did however buy a cheap bluetooth mouse to use with it. Being that its a full version of windows, it does work using the touch screen, but i found the mouse makes life so much easier. The TW-700 works well with LRP software and Tekin Hotwire.

the wrench 06-24-2015 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Lil Paul (Post 14064871)
You dont need the otg cable. I did however buy a cheap bluetooth mouse to use with it. Being that its a full version of windows, it does work using the touch screen, but i found the mouse makes life so much easier. The TW-700 works well with LRP software and Tekin Hotwire.

i got the tablet today, im not even gonna go into how annoying the setup of the tablet is, i detest windows, but full hotwire runs great! you get stuck having to download net framework 3.5, and jumping through microsofts, "no, i dont want to, no, i dont want that...no no NOO!!" a few more times, and voila, instant tekin! super cool to see the data log on my rx8...Finally...after a year of my gen 2's i can switch to my HV servos!!!

the auction i won came with a mouse and keyboard, i have gufus size hands and no way would i have the patience trying to touch screen ANY program, its super cool all i need is the tablet, mouse and usb hub

now i might be getting greedy, i wonder if i can finally play vrc off this, i have the adapter... now thats another thread, thanks guys for the advice, im gonna go play with my junk now


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