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Koozie 02-19-2015 08:27 AM

Thoughts on avc
 
What are people's thoughts on the new avc from spektrum

spookie 02-19-2015 08:39 AM

You know I was just wondering myself. I was wondering if anyone has installed this on another brand of vehicle? I was watching vids on YT how much this changes the handling.

Vaterra Halix MT - Demonstration run of AVC (on/off) on 2S Lipo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJwfyzyV9g
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HorizonHobby.com Running Footage - Active Vehicle Control (AVC) Ice Driving Challenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxMpg2J0yvM
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Brandon1977 02-19-2015 08:48 AM

I run avc in an emaxx and an erevo. Works pretty well. Especially when I'm snow bashing or doing speed runs across the golf course.

Koozie 02-20-2015 08:43 AM

I decided to pick up a dx4c with the 2 recivers when they were running that deal at horizon a whiel back. I put on of them in my mini 8ight and only get maybe 2 runs of my half done track im building at my house and the snow and freeze came in. iv got a bunch of other vehicles so I was wondering what people have tried. I may throw it in my emaxx since you seem to have good luck.

Wonder what a crawler would do with it like and scx10

Salkin 02-20-2015 11:26 AM

For hobby driving OK, for competitive racing NO.

Chuckie17 02-21-2015 06:12 AM

I agree for bashing it would fun to have. But I feeling it would ruin racing.

RENOV8R 02-21-2015 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Salkin (Post 13861385)
For hobby driving OK, for competitive racing NO.

Correct. It's not allowed in competition in our area unless it comes stock with the car (ex Mini Cooper)

Dan.J 02-21-2015 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Chuckie17 (Post 13862569)
I agree for bashing it would fun to have. But I feeling it would ruin racing.

LOL i'm all for it for racing if it keeps some of the guys in 4wd SC that do doughnuts down the straights get around the track better:lol:

Roelof 02-21-2015 02:53 PM

People needing this to drive a car must ask their selves if they have choosen the right hobby. Driving a car is all about keeping control and finding the right setup and not some devices doing it for you.

hacker07 02-24-2015 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 13863280)
People needing this to drive a car must ask their selves if they have choosen the right hobby. Driving a car is all about keeping control and finding the right setup and not some devices doing it for you.

While I understand this is your opinion and I can value that, keep in mind, what customers ask for out of ready to run vehicles today is so much speed that even the best driver in the world might have trouble with it. This would lead to the new customer or even casual user not having as much "fun" with their new toy. That is really what this and every hobby is about, having fun. That is the purpose of AVC. To help someone take a car that is way too fast for them, or needs new tires, or doesn't have a perfect surface to run on, etc, to go out an with minor adjustments to the radio, have some fun.

JimmyG 02-24-2015 04:15 PM

GM Racing tried this in the 90's and ROAR banned the speedo from ROAR sanctioned races.
Im sure ROAR will do the same (ban the use of AVC), and so will some tracks. If you want to learn how to drive on a track and race.. this is not the way.
If you want to play around with your friends at a backyard track, then have fun.

strykerakamack 02-24-2015 04:56 PM

I've converted most of my high power vehicles over to it
My opinion It should be a ROAR standard . Anything to move the hobby forward is a good thing .
To those who say its unfair to the true sport of it
F1 , Motogp , wsbk ,Indy
All professional motorsports use technology to the fullest advantage .
No one can say that the old was faster safer more controllable yesterday without electronics than today with electronics .
AVC makes the Fast Faster and gives the rest the ability to get better
crashers still gonna crash

BigRM 02-25-2015 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by strykerakamack (Post 13869636)
AVC makes the Fast Faster and gives the rest the ability to get better
crashers still gonna crash

You couldn't be further from the truth there.

AVC will make a fast driver slower before it does anything else. AVC takes direct control of the vehicle away from the driver. This is not what you want when racing.

It prevents poor drivers from getting better because their poor habits are not translating to poor performance on the vehicle end. And it gives poor drivers an unfair advantage over similarly skilled drivers who use different equipment.

R/C racing is a contest of skill; gyros, AVC technology and anything else that supplants skill has no place in racing.


(All that said, AVC makes for a hell of a good time when bashing :) )

sakadachi 02-25-2015 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Koozie (Post 13859082)
What are people's thoughts on the new avc from spektrum

I tried it on my M04 (rwd). Was not overly impressed with it. It works, but setting up the car properly and practice is still key.

Also, it takes away the real fun of RWD cars. :rolleyes:

Even on my real RWD cars I turn dynamic yaw control off. It wasn't for me. I still use the receiver, but with AVC turned off and running it on another chassis.


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