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treeman724 07-25-2014 09:02 PM

LRP flow team works issues
 
I bought a new LRP flow works team esc and a Dynamic 10 4700kv motor with a savox 1258 tg servo.

The truck is a durango 410r, even though it's really not pertinent.

I run a futaba radio with a HV receiver. The problem is the truck keeps browning out and almost slowly driving itself for a few seconds once I've lost control of it.

I attached not one but two glitch busters in the receiver and it really didn't seem to help.

My next step was to try an external BEC.(castle creations 10A). I installed it and went to run it and it seems to work fine when I slowly pull the trigger back the truck will go to full speed, but when I punch it the motor just seems to cog really bad and it barely moves?

Bad ESC or motor? Hard to believe with a proper external bec it would still not be right.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ThePanda 07-26-2014 07:00 AM

Did you try recalibrating the esc to the radio? As well as a new sensor wire?

treeman724 07-26-2014 10:56 AM

Yeah, I tried both of those. No change

Yosh70 07-26-2014 07:58 PM

Not sure why you think a BEC should fix it when a capacitor really didnt do anything.
In any case, its a process of elimination IMO. Since the electronics are new, I would start with the receiver and see if that changes anything. Even a different Tx if you can come up with one.
Then maybe swap a motor, a ESC and a servo to see if you can find the culprit.

Does the brownout happen right away when you start driving or after a few minutes? Can it be done on a stand?

MarkA 07-26-2014 09:27 PM

When I see the words "brown out" and "Savox" in the same post, regardless of whatever else has already been tried, a different, non-Savox servo is what I'd start looking to try next even if you've already gone overkill with a whole external BEC.

That being said, cogging off a hard punch of the throttle, especially in a 4wd SC, is often a symptom the battery itself just not being able to provide enough power for that much motor. Brand, age, spec of your lipos?

treeman724 07-27-2014 11:27 AM

Yeah I tried a different servo, I know its not the motor. Its got like one 3 minute run on it

I tried all I could think of before I want to pack it up and send it out for a month of down time in the middle of my race season.

Ill probably just ditch LRP and go with a tekin setup.

Ill keep the fixed esc for a backup


Thanks

adriaav 09-24-2014 11:05 AM

Same problem here, running same electronics (flow works, dynamic 10l 4.7, savox 1258tg) on an associated sc10 4x4 and after 1-2 min it starts with the same sympthoms...

Did you find any solution? Changing servo did help?

I'm running hobbyking nanotech ultimate 6.4 90c batteries

Thank you!

Jerry P 09-24-2014 11:11 AM

Have either of you tried turning off Lipo cut off?

adriaav 09-24-2014 01:08 PM

Yes, did one battery without cutoff. I've sent a mail to lrp explaining issue, waiting for an answer.

Thank you!

Jerry P 09-24-2014 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by adriaav (Post 13554540)
Yes, did one battery without cutoff. I've sent a mail to lrp explaining issue, waiting for an answer.

Thank you!

Was the outcome still the same?

adriaav 09-25-2014 09:22 AM

Result was the same, i've resoldered wires, shortened battery ones, changed sensor wire and it remains the same. No error on the speedo.

LRP answered my e-mail and said that an additional condensor could fix the problem and that i should try with another servo...

Is somebody running flow works and dynamic 10l with no problems?

Thank you!

adriaav 09-28-2014 05:12 AM

Changed servo, still not working.

sobiski racer 09-28-2014 10:44 AM

What kind of battery are you using? In my losi scte, i had a battery that the voltage would drop to 5.9 to 6.4 then build back to 7.4. Junk battery would run forever but no punch

adriaav 09-28-2014 04:01 PM

I'm running NEW hobbyking nanotech ultimate 6.4 90c batteries

Thank you!

adriaav 09-29-2014 05:26 AM

Seems like I found what was happening... but haven't solved it yet...

I tried with an other lrp flow works that I had installed on my pro10,
after installing it on the sc10 4x4 I was able to pull trigger for 2-3 times and after it started with the same brownouts as before.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...it?usp=sharing

This time I could see that the capacitor leg gets broken/dessoldered

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...it?usp=sharing

I've went to the shop and bought some more capacitors 25-35-50v / 2200-3300 microf.

Installed one of them on the speedo and same as before, after 2-3 times pullling trigger, capacitor gets dessoldered.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byb...it?usp=sharing

Soldered a new one and set the throttle EPA to 60%, could pull the trigger 7-8 times and gets dessoldered.

IS LRP FLOW WORKS ENOUGH FOR DYNAMIC 10L??????


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