Which Combo is Better?
 

Hey there guys. I'm looking into shopping for a 17.5T Motor/ESC combo that I also plan on dropping a 13.5T motor in for mod racing in the spring. So far, I've narrowed it down to two choices: A Novak vs. Hobbywing. I've searched and couldn't find anything specifically to these two systems:

Hobbywing: http://www.hobbypartz.com/07e-combo-js5.html

Novak: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXBPVB&P=ML

I'm leaning towards the hobbywing based on what I've read about Novaks giving up early. I also like that it comes with a programming card, and it just looks like a solid system overall. I've had good luck with hobbywing in the past, but out of those two systems, which one would you choose? I know I asked about 1/8 systems previously, but this time its a 1/10 system.

Neither of those are truly mod capable escs. You want something more powerful. A 13.5 is not really mod either, you will get beat very quickly by people running their faster winds.

http://www.falconsekido.com/products...or-red-edition

http://www.falconsekido.com/products...s-esc-for-10th

Both of these escs are mod capable, and are better than what was listed. Then just pick a motor of you choosing.

first, nobbywings are great and I would stay away from the novak. Seconly, never shop at hobbypartz for hobbywing. They offer no warranty. If you want a hobbywing, shop here.
http://www.falconsekido.com/products...combo-for-1-10

Also, I would not buy the HW blue motor. Their esc's are good, but the blue motors are meh. I would get this motor from them.

http://www.falconsekido.com/products/xerun-v10-motor

Or You could get this ESC:
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=28377

http://www.falconsekido.com/products...or-red-edition

Or you could get this one, it comes in red, black, or blue! :lol:

$36 vs $101 vs $186?

100 and 185 won't have any issues and will have supports say any issues ever do appear. And they are blue :p

They are most likely smoother escs too, with more features, which to some, is priceless.

Thanks guys! Those are expensive though I've got to say! :eek: The $102 ESC I'm good with...is there a lower cost motor that would work as well? If there isn't, then I'll just cough up the cash for that motor. I don't think they'll be having any black friday deals..or so it seems.


Thanks for the advice on staying away from hobbypartz for hobbywing systems. I'll use falconsekido.

EDIT:

Hmmm how about these two ESC's?

http://www.falconsekido.com/products...t-pro-esc-blue

http://www.falconsekido.com/products/xerun-90a-sd-bk

The $36 and $101 ESC are the same. They use same software, I have one and can use HW programing box. The only difference is warranty, but you could get almost three HK esc for one HW.

use the just stock esc and the motor I linked. it really is the best bang for the buck. personally I would not get the led card either, to hard to use, just get the lcd.

this is what I would get.
Motor: Xerun v10 $83
http://www.falconsekido.com/products/xerun-v10-motor

Esc Jusr stock $49.99
http://www.falconsekido.com/products...c-esc-for-1-10

LCD Program Box. lets you easyly make changes and hook to your pc for firmware changes. $26.99
http://www.falconsekido.com/products/lcd-program

That is about $150 with free shipping. I really think you will be more happy with all of that. If you really really really want to save more money, you can check out the Speedpassion 17.5 and 13.5 motors on ebay. These:

I bought from this guy. He is solid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Speed-Passio...item1c391e3fcf

With the HW just stock esc, the lcd programmer and the Speed Passion 17.5, you looking at around $110 shipped. I ran the SP 17.5 motor and it seemed plenty fast. the MMM version has a little more timing. But to keep it simple and make one order, I would go with the HW stuff I listed.

Thanks! I'll probably go with the SP motor since my budget is pretty tight. But that ESC and program card look like a good plan.

EDIT: Well...I just purchased the LCD program box, Jusr ESC, and SP 17.5T motor. Hopefully it'll work great!

Good choice!

Yes, and no. The hobbyking versions are clones of the hobbywing escs. So they should be able to use that same software, as it is probably the same.

You'll love it!

Thanks guys! I'm pretty excited to get it installed. :) Gonna be a long wait. :D

Quick question...I got my speed passion 17.5R motor in today (fast shipping!) and I noticed that there are no motor wires. What should I do about motor wires?

the esc didnt come with wires? Esc's normally come with wires. Motors normally come with sensor cables. Some esc's come with sensor wires and motor wires. FYI, my SP sensor wire was tooo short for my B4 or tlr22 in RM config. You might need a longer one. I cant remember if the just stock comes with a sensor wire, but it definitely should have wires for the motor.

Oh okay thanks. I haven't gotten the ESC in yet; just the motor. I'll wait until the ESC comes in then as well. The motor did come with a sensor wire yes. And it does look a little short...I'll have to see if the ESC comes with one.

Speed passion is big into onroad racing, I think that is why the sensor wire is so short. If your running a mid motor car, it might work fine. For rear motor, you will need longer.

Escs usually dont, sensor wites are very cheap though 😉

My smily showed up! 😱😄😄😄😄😄😄

even if the esc came with a sensor wire, I would order one up. Those thing are very prone to going bad. Plus, I really like the flat wire sensor cables.

Thanks guys! Which sensor wire would you guys recommend I get? There seems to be a bunch of sizes.

what kind of car/truck?

I really like these. Well made and easy to install nicely.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...atwire&x=0&y=0

For a b4/sc10/t4 I would get the 200mm and run it through the tower
For the TLR 22/22t/22sct I would get the 175mm one.

Longer is better than shorter. And its pretty easy you use a zip tie to take up the slap in a longer flat wire. Nothing you can do if its too short.

You can take a string and run it from the motor to where the esc is, then measure the distance in mm and then maybe add 20mm flex and mounting.

The truck its going to go in is a Stadium Truck (ECX Circuit). I'll do the string idea.

Thanks for the link! I'll have to see if the LHS has any of those so that I can get up and running sooner. :D

I just got my stuff from FalconSekido! It looks solid! Going to solder up some wires. Quick question...is heat shrink needed for motor wires?

Good luck, its always nice but not needed.

I only use heat shrink on the power connectors. 4mm/deans. No real need on the motor side. Some people say to not put the tubing on the esc posts because it prevents cooling. Others like it to prevent a possible short.

Thanks guys! I'll skip the heat shrink on the there then.

Another question. Is it okay to program the ESC even though I do not have a sensor wire yet?

yes, the esc will run with or without a sensor wire. It just does it a little better with the wire.

Okay thanks! I should have picked one up when I went to the LHS to get some deans connectors. :mad: I guess I'll just order some from amain...I mean I may need new tranny gears anyway...its making a loud clicking noise back there. :cry:

I just tested the new setup. Its great! But it does seem like the motor kind of skips around. For example, at one throttle point it will go slow, then I'll move the throttle to a different point slowly and it'll jump in RPMs. Will the sensor wire smoothen this out?

Yes. It will smooth it out.

Okay thank you! That sounds good then.