Mamba Max ???
 

Question about the Mamba Max,

Is there a blinky mode?

This is a Mamba Max, not a Pro. I've been through the Castle link software, and I didn't find one, but maybe I just missed something.

I've recent got a few of these ESC's and with all the talk of blinky modes and classes, I was wondering if it was possible.

Try the latest firmware

Cheers

Will do, thank you.

The MMpro is the only CC ESC that has ramp up timing. When cheat is not being used it blinks the yellow LED rapidly.

The little green Mamba Max has adjustable base timing (no cheat mode or ramp up timing) it's blinky mode all the time with any firmware.
It will blink the yellow LED every 30sec. with v1.27 and up but thats just to let you know the power is on.

Thank you, I gues I really didnt know much about the blinky modes.:blush: Thats why I love this forum.......

If thats the only thing you didn't understand your doing much better then I did when I got my first Mamba Max 8 years ago :nod:

Yea, I was doing ok. But to be honest maybe I cheated a little, as I have an Electrical Engineering Degree. Sometimes it helps, but most times its just another piece of paper.:lol:

Have you tried the torque control yet ???
It's very useful in many ways :tire:___:tire:>

No I havent got that far yet.

I ended up get my girlfreinds two boys Torment trucks for Christmas, and needless say I've been busy.:lol::lol:

i thinking of buying a MMpro for 17.5t blinky mode class but not sure of the motor choice just yet. any suggestions? for indoor carpet 1/10 jumps

What tips can you give about the torque control. I run a thunder power 7.5 with a mamba max pro on a small high bite clay track. Some times the SC10 is a little too punchy.

I've had very good luck with the Trinty locked 17.5t I have them in my son's B4 and B44, and he loves them. Plenty of power even without the CHEAT mode. We run an indoor carpet off-road with jumps track, on Friday's and a hard packed clay indoor on Sats. And he has enough power to clear the triples on the clay track. And as reference of size, this indoor clay track also runs E-scale buggies. I guess I would call it a 1/9th scale track. Not really a true 1/8th scale, but bigger than a 1/10th scale track too.

I'll try :sweat:

The torque control is a calibrated current limiter, start with 5 and you'll see where on the track it takes the power away.
At 9 you may not feel it at all but it's still working in the backround.

You can also use it to get longer run times.

Set it the same way you would set a slipper clutch and go up from there until you get what you want.

When your rotor get hot it loses some magnetism, that makes the KV's go up.
If you look at the KV you get from the test (from time to time) you can get an idea how your motor is holding up to the heat.

The punch control is a throttle delay so have that off when your trying to set the torque limiter, you'll get a better feel for whats happening.

If it has adjustable base timing how can it be blinky mode, at least all the time? Doesn't seem to appear on the ROAR approved non timing ESC list.

The Mamba Max Pro does, but oddly no confirming light info is listed like for most others.

ROAR Approved Non Timing ESC list

Set timing is ok, it is the Dynamic timing that is not legal for blinky mode.

Some of the LRP esc's have different timing settings that can be preset.

In blinky mode that timing does not increase or decrease.

Out of blinky mode the timing will advance as the rpm's increase, between 2 user selected rpm range's at a user selected # of degrees.

You can preset timing on the mmp also in blinky mode, I think it is 0,5,& 10 degrees.
These are fixed settings that do not change during a run, it is similar to changing the timing on the motor.Performed by the electronics of the esc instead of the sensor position.

Many ESCs have adjustable static timing advance, but as I understand it none is allowed in blinky mode, the adjustment is no longer available. It is my understanding that 0 timing is just that, 0, generally with a way to verify. Isn't this what got ORCA and Tekin in trouble, having some static timing advance?

I don't know about ORCA, buy I read somewhere that while whatever Tekin put in the ( I think it was the older 212 software, I do not have a tekin) was not illegal, but that it was not in the Spirit of the agreement between ROAR & the MFG's
( I Think, or at least that is what I understood of the situation)lol

On your link it has a note that the new 212 version will blink the 3rd & 5th led. whatever it was it looks fixed.
More & better info can be found here or on their previous thread.

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=277167

Back to the timing, on your esc link it gives or does not give instructions on each approved esc. Some esc's may add some advantage other than just static timing.
The mmp shows v1.26 (& should read any newer v. & the yellow led will blink in spec mode)
Good catch, they need to fix that, lol

A speed control that you might think should be on the list will not appear if Castle did not submit it for approval.

For testing purposes, as I type...

I just updated mine to v1.25 it did not blink & tried both 1.26 & 1.32 , The yellow led blinks as it should.
In the default mode (Smartsense) you can adjust static timing from 0 to 20 degrees. (the yellow led still blinks)
My guess would be that testing by ROAR showed no change in performence or they just plain missed it.

I could not find any definition of (0) degrees timing anywhere as a roar spec. Could you post where you read it?


Roar has a device to make sure all esc's conform to no advantage.
( lol, It is being repaired right now, hence Novak is waiting on approval on some of their new esc's)

(I agree with you about 0 timing. It would get rid of the gray areas.) That may be what Team Epic was thinking with their fixed timing motors.

It was explained to me that if advancing motor timing or esc timing does the same thing that would be ok. If any advantage is found by advancing timing in the esc is found it would not be allowed in spec & that Dynamic timing was out of the ? completely.

The Tekin issue has been resolved (and it was quite quickly as I remember), but you must run V212 as noted. Not sure of the ORCA status but I assume the suspension is over:

ORCA ESC’s suspended for six months

All the other ESCs without notes are non programmable unless I missed something. The MMPro appears to be the exception, but again is legal at this time only with V1.26. Fully agree there probably should be some clarification.

Guess I would assume that Castle would not go to the trouble of adding a feature that did not impact performance. Just guessing as I don’t own any Castle, but it doesn’t seem likely to me, they appear to be a competent and honest outfit. Stuff I do have with adjustable static timing definitely has an impact, and is disabled on the ROAR legal mode as I understand it.

New approval listing for ROAR Sportsman Class Speed Controls

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All good & valid points :nod:, Thanks for the links.

I sent an inquiry to ROAR I'll let you know if or when I get an answer.
TM