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Old 02-14-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkW
Softening reduces timing for the set conditions. However, with softening activated, you're no longer in blinky mode.
If I use 30 softening, does that reduce 30 degree timing?

And when I set it to 50%, it is applying the reduced timing from neutral throttle to half throttle right? Once I go pass half throttle, the reduced timing is gone.
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Old 02-14-2022, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gom
If I use 30 softening, does that reduce 30 degree timing?

And when I set it to 50%, it is applying the reduced timing from neutral throttle to half throttle right? Once I go pass half throttle, the reduced timing is gone.
Yes to the range question. However I suspect the timing value might be a bit more complicated. If you set it to 30 degrees, 50%, I wouldn't expect the timing to suddenly jump between -30 degrees at 49% throttle up to 0 degrees at 51% throttle. That'll potentially upset the car with such a jarring transition. My guess is that it's actually a ramp.
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Old 02-14-2022, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Yes to the range question. However I suspect the timing value might be a bit more complicated. If you set it to 30 degrees, 50%, I wouldn't expect the timing to suddenly jump between -30 degrees at 49% throttle up to 0 degrees at 51% throttle. That'll potentially upset the car with such a jarring transition. My guess is that it's actually a ramp.
That's also what I am wondering too. How exactly does the transition happen?

I tried softening 30 degrees with 50%. There might be a slight increase of power at 50% but it's very subtle. I am probably not good enough to tell the difference.

I am wondering for a beginner like myself, should I keep softening on? or should I turn it off so that the throttle response is completely linear? Which one is easier to drive? I am not trying to go fast yet. Just trying to keep the laps consistent.
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Originally Posted by gom
That's also what I am wondering too. How exactly does the transition happen?

I tried softening 30 degrees with 50%. There might be a slight increase of power at 50% but it's very subtle. I am probably not good enough to tell the difference.

I am wondering for a beginner like myself, should I keep softening on? or should I turn it off so that the throttle response is completely linear? Which one is easier to drive? I am not trying to go fast yet. Just trying to keep the laps consistent.
Try both and check your lap time and consistency values. Pick what works best for you.
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Old 02-14-2022, 11:47 PM
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Hi, I have all HW xr10 pro 1s esc. I've been looking for a case/heatsink that is fan compatible. Does anyone have any suggestions? Would it be part number 30850012?

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Old 02-19-2022, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gom
cool. thanks.

Also can anyone explain what exactly does "softening" do?
softening does just what it says, it softens the power set in the adjustments. You can set how much of the throttle % your softeningvis applied. It does not effect your blinky mode.

If you have the P.C hobbywing program, hook up your car and click on each adjustment on the speedo and the explanation of what it does pops up on the right side of the program.
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Old 02-19-2022, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Slotmachine
softening does just what it says, it softens the power set in the adjustments. You can set how much of the throttle % your softeningvis applied. It does not effect your blinky mode.

If you have the P.C hobbywing program, hook up your car and click on each adjustment on the speedo and the explanation of what it does pops up on the right side of the program.
It does disable blinky. Softening reduces timing which makes it non compliant with blinky regulations.
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Old 02-21-2022, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
It does disable blinky. Softening reduces timing which makes it non compliant with blinky regulations.
From my understanding the softening values are like the old punch modes. Had nothing to do with timing.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
It does disable blinky. Softening reduces timing which makes it non compliant with blinky regulations.
It doesn't change timing at all. It's an allowable change within the "0 timing mode" because it doesn't change timing. It's a current limiting feature/setting like the punch setting in the older HW ESCs.

A few of have ran softening in both onroad and offroad ROAR events without any issues and passing tech.

Softening is a current limiting setting. Basically it limits a certain percentage of current or "softening value" over a specific amount of throttle input or "softening range".
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It's totally fine to run in a blinky/0 timing class.
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Old 02-21-2022, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkW
Softening reduces timing for the set conditions. However, with softening activated, you're no longer in blinky mode.
With softening enabled it will keep the ESC in blinky, it doesn't change timing. It is a current limiting setting, nothing to do with timing.
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I think what is confusing is that in the settings manual is that HW lists that you can increase mechanical motor timing by 1 for every 5 of softening value added, and that it was originally designed for the modified classes.

It does keep the ESC in blinky/0 timing mode with that setting enabled.

Even if it does affect timing... the ROAR approvals only requires settings "4a boost timing" and "5a turbo timing" to be set to 0 to be in the approved zero timing mode.

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Here's a dumb one that I can't find any explanation on..... A few HW esc's have 3 brake settings, linear, Traditional, and hybrid. What are they, and how do they effect my car vs throttle/brake input? Everything I've found defines the 3 settings with "use the settings the driver prefers". This is not much of a definition. I would like to know what the developers intended the function to be so I can determine if everything functions properly.
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Old 03-02-2022, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LearningCurve
Here's a dumb one that I can't find any explanation on..... A few HW esc's have 3 brake settings, linear, Traditional, and hybrid. What are they, and how do they effect my car vs throttle/brake input? Everything I've found defines the 3 settings with "use the settings the driver prefers". This is not much of a definition. I would like to know what the developers intended the function to be so I can determine if everything functions properly.

I good read on all settings. Unfortunately not the full answer your asking for as he states most use linear.

https://www.eurorc.com/page/110/hobb...ings-explained
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Old 03-06-2022, 07:41 AM
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Looks like the latest version of the HW Link software has fixed the Android 12 incompatibility.

The built-in software update didn't work but uninstalling the old version and reinstalling the new version from the Play Store did.
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What's the programming capability of the XR8 SCT vs the XR10 Pro G2?

I have an Xr8 SCT and am considering putting it into a 1/10th truggy with a 3652 4300 or 5100 motor. The up side is the price point is really good and I already own the ESC. Heat would likely be a non issue.

The downside is weight and size. Also, will need to reduce the punch through the ESC to make it more driveable.

Does the XR8 have the same programming parameters as the XR10 pro G2? Is it possible to effectively mellow the motor out in the programming to take some of the perceived torque out?
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