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Old 05-14-2015, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
I have the Actinium 21.5 at max timing (4) and 4.0 FDR running in USGT on a large outdoor parking lot track. As always awesome but as the outside temperatures are starting to get warmer here in TX so is the motor (near 150F last race when it was ~90F outside). I'm trying not to use a fan as the car is already heavy because of the 1400 gram USGT weight limit here. Anybody have any luck with this motor using less timing and more gear or do I need to just bite the bullet and put the fan in the car?
+1 for a fan. 150 with those conditions is pretty darn good, but you're better off with a well operating motor compared to being overweight a few grams. There are some very good and lightweight fans, like the wtf fan.
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
I have the Actinium 21.5 at max timing (4) and 4.0 FDR running in USGT on a large outdoor parking lot track. As always awesome but as the outside temperatures are starting to get warmer here in TX so is the motor (near 150F last race when it was ~90F outside). I'm trying not to use a fan as the car is already heavy because of the 1400 gram USGT weight limit here. Anybody have any luck with this motor using less timing and more gear or do I need to just bite the bullet and put the fan in the car?
150* is not so bad... If it were 190*, you would have a problem. If you are worried about it, just get a small fan and shoo-goo it to the chassis to save weight.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
I have the Actinium 21.5 at max timing (4) and 4.0 FDR running in USGT on a large outdoor parking lot track. As always awesome but as the outside temperatures are starting to get warmer here in TX so is the motor (near 150F last race when it was ~90F outside). I'm trying not to use a fan as the car is already heavy because of the 1400 gram USGT weight limit here. Anybody have any luck with this motor using less timing and more gear or do I need to just bite the bullet and put the fan in the car?
Yes, I have heard of reports of this motor being timed down and geared up with success.

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Old 05-14-2015, 12:23 PM
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Timing 6! and a Fan

Why are you guys breaking the rules for 50g????
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:57 PM
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A fan all the way. Why take a chance. Like driving a car without a radiator and fan, how far can you go.
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8-15g of fan weight isn't going to noticeably slow you down. Running without a fan in hot weather will. You can push your motor a little more with a fan.
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A fan all the way. Why take a chance. Like driving a car without a radiator and fan, how far can you go.
From drag racing, I would say about 1/4 mile.

Yes, fans are a great idea. Some fool in another thread thought they should ban fans as a way to reduce costs... that sounds really expensive.
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John I have backed off the timing from 4 to 3 and temps dropped. Like 128 down to 101. But I have a R1Wurks fan. Kept the gearing the same (4.1) And the temp sensor is on the side of the motor and gets some fan air. The bottom of the motor temped at 155 with the timing on 4, as a comparison.

The motor bogged a lot less on light throttle when the timing was on 3. And had some more torques.

I couldn't imagine cranking the timing to 6.

Did I read on this thread there was a ROAR approved 12.5mm rotor that was 5mm longer? Where do I buy one?
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John I have backed off the timing from 4 to 3 and temps dropped. Like 128 down to 101. But I have a R1Wurks fan. Kept the gearing the same (4.1) And the temp sensor is on the side of the motor and gets some fan air. The bottom of the motor temped at 155 with the timing on 4, as a comparison.

The motor bogged a lot less on light throttle when the timing was on 3. And had some more torques.

I couldn't imagine cranking the timing to 6.

Did I read on this thread there was a ROAR approved 12.5mm rotor that was 5mm longer? Where do I buy one?
Thanks BTW what happened to lap times when you dropped the timing but kept the same FDR?

Yes I read that too about the longer rotor; however there is not mention on the team powers website of a 12.5mm rotor that is 5mm longer. If anyone has a part number for that rotor please post.
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
Thanks BTW what happened to lap times when you dropped the timing but kept the same FDR?

Yes I read that too about the longer rotor; however there is not mention on the team powers website of a 12.5mm rotor that is 5mm longer. If anyone has a part number for that rotor please post.
Sorry Guys, there is no ROAR approved rotor that is 5mm longer. ROAR rules state 25mm +/- 1mm So the Standard rotor is 24mm long by 12.5mm dia. There is a rotor being tested that is 26mm, but it is not available for the public (yet?). We'll see...

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So can you help me understand the differences between the Plutonium and the Actinium motors? Does one work better in certain applications?
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Originally Posted by Kraig
So can you help me understand the differences between the Plutonium and the Actinium motors? Does one work better in certain applications?
The Plutonium uses the standard high torque stator, and the Actinium uses the short stack stator.
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Originally Posted by Kraig
So can you help me understand the differences between the Plutonium and the Actinium motors? Does one work better in certain applications?
Call me crazy but for some reason I don't see a Plutonium 17.5 on the ROAR approved list. Nor anything about a V2...

The original Plutonium 13.5's and Mods were approved in 2012, no idea about the rest.
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
Thanks BTW what happened to lap times when you dropped the timing but kept the same FDR?
Different days, different track layout. Tad less top end on the straight but some more jump exiting a turn.
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Originally Posted by Kraig
So can you help me understand the differences between the Plutonium and the Actinium motors? Does one work better in certain applications?
The Plutonium came standard with a 12.3mm rotor. Also the Stator is longer than the Actinium.

The Standard Actinium produces more torque than the Plutonium in standard configurations.

We have been faster in all testing with the Actinium compared to the Plutonium. We have tested offroad buggy, stadium truck , 1/12, Sedan.

I have retired all of my Plutonium motors.

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