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JMYBFFT 10-13-2010 02:17 PM

LIPO storage mode question
 
When setting my charger to put my lipos in storage do I set the amp setting the same as if I am charging them? I could not find the info in my manual. Thanks.

Also, how close are your cells in voltage after a typical run? Is there a certain range I should watch for?

crusey_aus 10-13-2010 02:31 PM

What charger do you own ?

Different chargers approach storage mode differently

The aim is to get the pack to around 50% or 3.85v / cell, anywhere between 3.7 and 3.9 will be fine

Some chargers will only discharge from a higher voltage 'down' to storage voltage (Discharge rate will be limited to the discharge rating of the charger, small 50 watt chargers usually rate limit the discharge rate to 5 watts or so)

Usually discharge does not include balancing

Some chargers will only charge 'up' to storage voltage using the normal settings for charging, may include balancing

Some chargers will automatically charge or discharge based on voltage

Cheers

JMYBFFT 10-13-2010 03:23 PM

I have a Thunder AC6 charger and run 4000mah 25C lipos. When I put it in storage mode it requires I put in a charge rate and I am wondering if I should set that to the same rate as when I am doing a normal charge.

Sylvain 10-13-2010 03:52 PM

Storage: If you do not plan to use your lipo pack for longer than a week, store it at 50-60% of the pack’s rated capacity. Make sure to cycle and/or balance your packs at least once per month since leaving them on the shelf for a prolonged period can cause the packs to get severely out of balance or even go dead.

Duster_360 10-13-2010 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by JMYBFFT (Post 8067020)
When setting my charger to put my lipos in storage do I set the amp setting the same as if I am charging them? I could not find the info in my manual. Thanks.

Also, how close are your cells in voltage after a typical run? Is there a certain range I should watch for?

I guess since you've been charging, you've already set the lithium type in user setup to lipo (3.7v)? Once thats done, storage setup asks for a charge rate and a disch rate. Depending on the voltage of the lipo, the charger may need to charge (voltage lower than stg voltage) or discharge (if voltage too high).

I wouldn't use the same rate as you do for charging, use a small charge/disch rate like 1amp for both. You don't want a high charge/disch rate. You want a low charge/disch rate so the voltage comes down slowly and evenly to the storage value and shows littel voltage recovery after the charger stops. This will help with cell balance too.

As far as cell diff goes, the better quality cells usually show less than 5mv - my Neuenergys are like this. My Turnigys show 10-15mv diff in individual cell voltages. So it depends on the lipo a littel as to what you should expect. Just observe yours and see what they are like. It'll prob stay that way until they get close to needing replacement.

racer53 10-13-2010 04:37 PM

Assuming your using a 2cell lipo the discharge voltage is 0.6v you can find other discharge rates in the back of the manuel.

Duster_360 10-13-2010 05:11 PM

My manual says 0.7amps, not volts.

This is due to the charger's discharge wattage limitation of 5watts. You could set it higher, but this is all the charger can do. I forgot about the discharge being limited.

Don't discharge a lipo to that low of a voltage, it'd be damaged and swell up like a little football.

racer53 10-14-2010 07:57 AM


My manual says 0.7amps, not volts.

This is due to the charger's discharge wattage limitation of 5watts. You could set it higher, but this is all the charger can do. I forgot about the discharge being limited.

Don't discharge a lipo to that low of a voltage, it'd be damaged and swell up like a little football.
Completely right...i gotta stop posting replies when i'm tired...my bad

monkee 10-14-2010 08:02 AM

What is the negative effect from leaving a lipo fully charged?

JMYBFFT 10-14-2010 08:05 AM

Thank you for all the replies. I found out after playing with my charger yesterday that it has a maximum setting of 1 amp for storage mode, but I never saw it go above 0.6 amps while the battery was hooked up. I don't know how low it takes the batteries for storage mode as I had to pack up when the battery was at 7.92 volts.

If I run the battery and it is at say 7.6 volts when I put it on the charger can I just charge it normally until it reaches 7.8 volts and then pull it off the charger and store it?

Duster_360 10-14-2010 08:38 AM

Its still a little high at 7.92v (3.96v/cell), so it needs a little more time on disch. The current limit your runing into is the 5watts max discharge allowed by the charger. 5watts/7.92v =.63amps so you're limited to 0.6a.


If you run the lipo to a resting voltage of 7.6v, you've basically placed it in storage, that's 3.8v/cell and its close enough. 3.85v/cell is just the average for the recommended storage range which is 3.78V~3.92v/cell.

Duster_360 10-14-2010 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by monkee (Post 8070404)
What is the negative effect from leaving a lipo fully charged?


Storing at full 4.2v/cell charge for long periods is supposed to increase internal resistance, which is going to affect C rating (decrease it). There is some form or kind of cumulative damage from sitting fully charged for long periods. I've seen well cared for lipos puff and they had always been kept fully charged.


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