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Old 02-26-2012, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by clparsons123 View Post
has anyone tried this esc in 17.5 boosted ? also what settings are good to start with ?

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depending on your motor's timing But With my revTech set at 0 I did the following


**********************************************ESC Info*********************************************
Controller:CAR_ESC
hardware version:HW427_V1.0
software version:V3.0_110930STOCK

**********************************************Sett ing**********************************************
[Profile/Mode No.]
Mode 1

[Profile Name]
profile1_car1

[Running Mode]
Forward Only with Brake(*)(+) Forward/Reverse with Brake Forward/Reverse Direct

[Drag Brake Force]
0%(*) 5% 10%
15% 20% 25%(+)
30% 100% Custom

[Low Voltage Cut-Off]
Non-Protection(+) 2.6V/Cell 2.8V/Cell
3.0V/Cell(*) 3.2V/Cell 3.4V/Cell
Custom

["DDRS" Start Mode]
Level 1 Level 2 Level 3
Level 4 Level 5 Level 6
Level 7 Level 8 Level 9(*)(+)

[Maximum Brake Force]
12.5% 25% 37.5%
50%(*) 62.5% 75%
87.5% 100%(+)

[Maximum Reverse Force]
25%(*)(+) 50% 75%
100%

[Initial Brake Force]
=Drag Brake Force 0%(*)(+) 20%
40%

[Neutral Range]
6%(Narrow)(*)(+) 9%(Normal) 12%(Wide)

[Turbo Open Time]
3 deg/0.1sec 6 deg/0.1sec 12 deg/0.1sec
18 deg/0.1sec(*) 24 deg/0.1sec Fastest(+)

[Over-Heat Protection]
Enable(*)(+) Disable

[Boost Start RPM]
1000 rpm 2000 rpm 3000 rpm(+)
4000 rpm(*) 5000 rpm 6000 rpm
7000 rpm 8000 rpm 9000 rpm
10000 rpm 11000 rpm 12000 rpm
13000 rpm 14000 rpm 15000 rpm

[Turbo Open Delay]
Off 0.1 sec 0.2 sec(+)
0.3 sec(*) 0.4 sec 0.5 sec
0.6 sec 0.7 sec 0.8 sec
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Robudda723 View Post
Have the HW 120a 2.1. Running 17.5 tc no boost. After about a minute of runtime the motor starts cogging and very little speed. I switched over to my lrp and have no issues. What could be causing the cogging. Settings, something wrong with esc. I bought this to eventually use in 21.5 vintage class we have, and bought a program box to add the 508 firmware. So not sure if I should send it in first to have it checked.

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Five condions will cause cogging

1.lack of battery discharge (most common)
2.High punch level set (also common)
3.damaged sensor wire
4.damaged motor sensor board
5.damaged esc mosfets or voltage regulator (internal in the esc )

thats all that can cause cogging

In saying all this i have also come across alot of motors that have been manufactured with a totally different sensor motor configuration port which on many occasions does not match some esc's .Most chinese motor manufacturers just design anything and most dont work or most do have issues with branded esc's sensor ports

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OK I searched a while back and been reading a lot of pages and can't seem to find my answer. I don't know how to tell if my Turbo kicks in. All I know is I need the latest software and the right gearing. The track I run at is asphalt, I run foams 37shore rear and 35shore front, 10.5 motor xerun. The straight is about 200ft or less turns are tight. My FDR is 6.8 on a tc5, I don't have my settings with me with, will add later. ?'s what settings for esc should I use for this track?

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Old 02-26-2012, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by COBRARACING View Post
Five condions will cause cogging

1.lack of battery discharge (most common)
2.High punch level set (also common)
3.damaged sensor wire
4.damaged motor sensor board
5.damaged esc mosfets or voltage regulator (internal in the esc )

thats all that can cause cogging

In saying all this i have also come across alot of motors that have been manufactured with a totally different sensor motor configuration port which on many occasions does not match some esc's .Most chinese motor manufacturers just design anything and most dont work or most do have issues with branded esc's sensor ports
Thank you COBRARCING, I will go down the list you provided. I race again on Saturday and will start the trouble shooting. We do not have a permanent carpet track, it gets rolled out one day a week or I would use a test session instead of a race day to trouble shoot.

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Does anyone know the BEC amperage for the xtreme stock, i have seen it at both 2a and 3a

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Originally Posted by FFred View Post
The best chance you have is to first downgrade from your current HW firmware to another HW formware, but from maybe 2010, to go to an old version where there was no problem to switch between SP and HW.

Then, you try to put a SP version but also an old one, and finish with the last SP version.

Here's a link to a 2010 HW version :
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2pbp1cge8hc8kpz

And one to an old SP version :
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?188ebg0eevk8a1b

Try first to change ESC firmware, and if it does not see the ESC (it's not always automatic, you have sometimes to click on Devices then ESC), try to change the LCD box firmware and try again on the ESC.
Ok thanks for the help it is all sorted now using both firmwares. Again thanks.
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Originally Posted by ozzy-crawl View Post
Does anyone know the BEC amperage for the xtreme stock, i have seen it at both 2a and 3a

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variable from 2- 3amp.
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Originally Posted by COBRARACING View Post
variable from 2- 3amp.
thanks cobra
taking it is not adjustable and 2-3a is the "switch mode"
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Originally Posted by Robudda723 View Post
Thank you COBRARCING, I will go down the list you provided. I race again on Saturday and will start the trouble shooting. We do not have a permanent carpet track, it gets rolled out one day a week or I would use a test session instead of a race day to trouble shoot.

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not a problem that what im here for .Please email me if you have any questions or anymore help

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i ran the HW extreme stock this weekend and it worked great! but much options i needed to test alot to get the right speed :P but a Small race report here:

http://andrefossto.wordpress.com/

enjoy! and thanks HW!
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Originally Posted by COBRARACING View Post
Five condions will cause cogging

1.lack of battery discharge (most common)
2.High punch level set (also common)
3.damaged sensor wire
4.damaged motor sensor board
5.damaged esc mosfets or voltage regulator (internal in the esc )

thats all that can cause cogging

In saying all this i have also come across alot of motors that have been manufactured with a totally different sensor motor configuration port which on many occasions does not match some esc's .Most chinese motor manufacturers just design anything and most dont work or most do have issues with branded esc's sensor ports
Also VERY common cogging source:

Poor soldering on wires/connectors
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So, TITC is over......
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How did the v3 go then????
And when can I have one PLEASE
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Originally Posted by Miholc View Post
Also VERY common cogging source:

Poor soldering on wires/connectors
Also try to re-flash the program up to three times in a row. I had the same problem after one minute where the motor felt flat with no punch. I flashed (or reloaded) the mod profile program three times in a row which fixed the problem.
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Originally Posted by ozzy-crawl View Post
thanks cobra
taking it is not adjustable and 2-3a is the "switch mode"
Yes correct
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