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JonBoy 05-09-2009 09:34 PM

Do I really need a balancer for Lipo?
 
Ok I got the battery 2 weeks ago and got the charger today. Reads 3.52v and 3.58v. I discharged the one side to 3.52v with a small fan at .01A discharge. Going to let it sit overnight and recheck it.

I would think this is acceptable but want a second opinion.

whitrzac 05-09-2009 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 5791817)
Ok I got the battery 2 weeks ago and got the charger today. Reads 3.52v and 3.58v. I discharged the one side to 3.52v with a small fan at .01A discharge. Going to let it sit overnight and recheck it.

I would think this is acceptable but want a second opinion.

if the batts got that far out of ballance, then yes, you do need a balancer

pakk 05-09-2009 09:54 PM

Theoretically, you are balancing the batteries already. It just is not the most convenient way. If your going to check your batteries frequently with a meter, you might be ok. But since you already have a charger, you really could pick up an in-expensive balancer and save a lot of time and trouble.

--pakk

JonBoy 05-10-2009 04:39 AM

I am well over my budget as it is and $30 for a balancer is is just something I dont have right now.

racer1812 05-10-2009 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by pakk (Post 5791877)
Theoretically, you are balancing the batteries already. It just is not the most convenient way. If your going to check your batteries frequently with a meter, you might be ok. But since you already have a charger, you really could pick up an in-expensive balancer and save a lot of time and trouble.

--pakk

+1 what your doing will work, it's just a pain......check it often.

JonBoy 05-10-2009 11:11 AM

Its a SPC 8000 pack. Just charged it to 7500mah is this typical? I did stop using it after the LV kicked in on the VXL. Also both sides charged to 4.2v

boomerrw 05-10-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 5792551)
I am well over my budget as it is and $30 for a balancer is is just something I dont have right now.

All this nice rc equip you own and you can't justify $30 for a balancer that will keep your $80 battery as well as you and charger safe?

These companies put balance leads on them for no good reason?

JonBoy 05-10-2009 12:09 PM

No cant still got to buy my daughter a swing set and feel guilty at heck. Charger and battery were used. Have $145 into Ice, Power supply, and Battery. All in great shape and hope I can pass on the balancer for now. I don't use my trucks much just plan on racing once a month just for fun a a local backyard track. That will be about the only time the battery gets used. Feel I can prep it the night before and charge it. Run it down and charge wile i use my nimh reuse and the day will be done.

boomerrw 05-10-2009 12:14 PM

/\/\ I can agree with you a bit there. Just fit the balancer into your near future plans. My biggest concern on not using balancers is the danger aspect. The performance loss almost doesn't even cross my mind.

JonBoy 05-10-2009 12:27 PM

Its not like I am not balancing it at all just manually balancing it, But the multimeter just reads 0.00 so not sure if this is close enough. I got to be within 0.005 of being balanced.

Duster_360 05-10-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 5793727)
Its a SPC 8000 pack. Just charged it to 7500mah is this typical? I did stop using it after the LV kicked in on the VXL. Also both sides charged to 4.2v

Not sure what you're asking - if you thought you'd get 8000 from it, you're under the wrong impression. If you overdischarge it, under about 3v/cell, or 6volts), you can damage it - one or both cells can puff or swell and then its basically ruined. Once a cell puffs, lipo is not safe to either charge or discharge. The low voltage cutoff is there for a reason.

The max voltage per cell is 4.2v/cell and thats what the charger is supposed to charge to. Its also bad to overcharge a lipo as well, that can also damge it.

casterdriver 05-10-2009 12:48 PM

Won't charge your big battery very fast but it will work kick ass as a balancer and is CHEEEEEEEP........
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s..._Charger_2S-3S

Charge your battery normally and then put this on and it will balance.

rcman1993 05-12-2009 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 5793727)
Its a SPC 8000 pack. Just charged it to 7500mah is this typical? I did stop using it after the LV kicked in on the VXL. Also both sides charged to 4.2v

This not good for the battery. You should only discharge the battery 80%, in your case 6500mah. It you use more than this then you can have a big explosion in your car if it happens to many times.

richard.bratton 05-12-2009 09:05 AM

Why don't you just charge the battery one cell at a time? You could easily rig a harness up using the balance port. If you aren't in a hurry, and it sounds like you aren't, that's what I'd do...

TeckLancer 05-12-2009 09:46 AM

its a real good idea to balance them but your way is fine besides u dont use it that often


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