You seem to be speaking on behalf of the manufacturer. Without an independent test to verify, or you publishing the data with methodology as well, your claims should equally be taken with a pinch of salt. Otherwise your post just reads like "you can't trust anybody but us". That's a pretty tall ask from a brand that few have heard of.

:lol: His torque tests use 3d printed servo holders and theres no methodology video on what he does to ensure consistency or accurate testing. Heck I just watched his first torque test video on the cannel and you can see the 3d printed mount flexing in the middle of the video. Its REALLY hard to tell with the camera moving, but if you focus on the silver screws and look at the difference in how the grey part moves you can see it. And dont tell me thats impossible because RC is all about having fast reactions and peripheral vision.

Does he have valid points that its hard for many servos especially cheap ones to hit their advertised specs? Sure! Do I trust his testing that explains nothing, uses flexible 3d printed parts and is monitarily incentivsed? Nope not at all!

Oh in one video they're sending servos to VRP so they test them before shipping. OK thats nice, testing before shipping. Does everyone get that treatment? Who knows. But he just did a few random tests, not repeatedly hitting it like with the powerHD servo video where he shows it slows down and gets inconsisent and hot. Or at least he says it heats up and thats the issue. Is it just internal temp and not externally measureable? Who knows, just buy AMR servos. Oh and ignore the extreme flexing on the 3d printed servo mount.

Sounds just like Pro Performance. That guy claimed they're so much better than anything else, and even threatened to post some details about the mosfets or components he was using.....but never did. Probably found out it was the same or similar to what everyone else was using in the esc's made by the same parent manufacturer.

If it lifts it, it lifts it. Flex in the mounting apparatus, won't matter much.

That would mess up speed and accuracy testing for sure though.

I'd be willing to test one in 1/8 Ebuggy. But I don't have the budget to buy and test another brand of servos. It's nice having that budgetary issue nipped. (And esc's, and batteries)

The funny thing is, pattern aircraft rarely have servos faster than 0.14. And those guys have more precision than anything we operate. They do just fine.

Some flex is indeed no problem as long it is blocked at some point, then the hold power of the servo is real.

Keep in mind that with airplanes there is no direct contact with something solid that cars do have with the tires on the ground. The airflow over a rudder already gives a small delay depending the size of the rudder and also the weight of the airplane. A good grippy car will always react faster with a faster servo. But grip and offroad are 2 thing that can not be named together so a fast steer servo has no sense when the low grip and the heavy chassis always start with some understeer.
As mentioned before I think 0.1 sec is fast enough and will give more and affordable options

I may be old fashion, but there is only one servo manufacturer I will use, Futaba. I've been using Futaba servos since I began RC racing in 1982 and I have never had any servo problems.

Nitro pro or nothing bro I use the ct1 2 3... in truck and in buggy iv use the r2 shorties or the same
Now I remember y I stop using this page nothing works

Nitropro servos are incredible. I use the FK-N500FST and the 550FST servos. I've had the same servos in my Truggy's that I purchased back in early 2019 and they are still going strong w/ null issues. Bought a few to have as spares and never needed them.

Incredible? Really? What is the draw on buying a non name brand servo that looks like it was made at the same plant as other non name brand servos and noone has ever heard of? I am not being facetious, I really want to know what the draw is on spending that kind of money on that kind of a servo. You aren't the only one who is doing it....look at all the other brands mentioned in this thread. What was it that made you get this Nitropro servo over a branded servo. It would be like me buying a Hyundai for the same price as a Mercedes. Before you bought your Nitropro servo, did you research the brand and find out something amazing......or in your words "incredible"? I did go look at these servos and they have some puurrty graphics on them. Is that what you liked about them?

I actually have a metal one, and can easily show in our videos the torque results will be the same lol. The torque drop you see in many of the videos of various brands we have tested will be the same as they heat up as well peak torque created. If you think along those lines then clearly my servos would even more powerful. Remember the test are all done on the same torque tester. Our consistent torque production as our servos get hot would not change regardless of fixture. Nor will a metal fixure make up for servos producing half the torque they advertise.

My servos produce the torque as advertised and they will do the same on a metal fixture.

What about the speed test we recently did which the servo is advertised as .06, yet only produced .10 at 7.4v?? If you guys are okay with giving these people your hard earned cash so be it. It's a free country. Yet ours meets the mark in the same video without a single cut thru the video. Our speed tester produces the same speed results as the equipment in our factory. On top of that they use the same torque tester. Where do you think our tester came from lol. Again regardless of the fixture our servos meet the specs that we advertise while others do not, period. If a metal fixture added 5kg to one servo it would add 5kg to all the servos tested. My videos are transparent and the results can be interpreted how you want...in the end the data is the data.

You do realize most of these brands these days don't even have their own equipment to check what they are ordering from overseas with their name on it lol. Guys are just gullible enough to take their word for it. We have our equipment and our factory uses the same so our results are consistent with each other. We even have a laser speed tester at our factory which is not portable, however produce the same test results as our portable unit we take to races.

Just for you I will switch it out to our metal fixture, and your assumptions will be proven wrong. What then, you going to continue to stick up for these brands who can't deliver?? Probably right cause they been around longer than us haha. We still selling our servos regardless lol.

I often get much enjoyment out of reading your uneducated posts and comments about my company and I typically don’t respond to them but this time I will fill you in….
Pro Performance servos are highly advanced and were the first in our country to be able to utilize the Sanwa SXR mode,before Sanwa’s own compatible servos were even available in the states.Very expensive debugging equipment was purchased and special PCB’s were developed just for this purpose.

Why would I “threaten” to post anything pertinent as to what gives our electronics a distinct advantage for our competition only to read here,it makes no sense.

No need for any debate however since our race results speak for themselves and our equipment has been in the front of every major event in the hands of different drivers since the beginning.

But please enjoy your AGF rebranded (Fantom) servos as I personally look forward to smoking you on your home track (or any track) with the most DIALED equipment from #TheRealRaceShop

It's worth clarifying that AGF servos are junk, more info here:
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...t-AGFRC-Servos

In that thread I explain how NitroPro has upgraded all the shortcomings from the AGF branded crap and is far higher quality. I refuse to buy a servo that doesn't offer at least a 1 year warranty which is why I listed NitroPro as a recommended servo above, and the other servo that I recommended was from SRT and they offer a 5 year warranty!

I will never buy a servo from overseas again and will only deal with a USA distributor who offers warranty protection. If anyone is selling a servo with only a 30-90 day warranty, then I would NOT recommend any of those brands.

Ok heres the thing, you recently started selling servos and are testing all the competitions and posting tests. Your goal is to sell your servos so you're financially motivated to make your servos look good. In PC hardware testing, the people at the top have been doing it for years and have posted videos on how they test and why they test. Is servo testing as complicated? No but you just came out of the blue and are talking bad about every other brand. Of course theres plenty that don't meet their specs, cheaper stuff is cheaper for a reason. But I haven't really seen any higher end racing brands posted yet, but I do understand the youtube game.

The speed tests are going to show some seriously bad servos, thats understandable. But Idk why I should trust your tests, again you're motivated to show yours in a better light. You've posted some very interesting "data" but taking it at face value with no skepticism is not smart. But yeah keep acting high and mighty and don't really give us a reason to trust your results. You're just saying "trust me" and not giving any reason too.

But yeah how dare I question a 3d printed mount that shows flexing from the start.

You were called out in some other thread, and you were going to post some info about transistors or something that proved how much better your escs were. You know, proof your marketing isnt hot air. You never responded. I'd dig it up but I need to be doing other stuff, but if someone else wants to go through your post history be my guest. It'll be obvious. I've talked to average drivers that run your stuff and the impression I get that its nice. No idea if theres more punch or power or rpm in a stock motor, but they arent any worse than other high end race escs.

Dakota winning with your stuff hardly matters, he won with the 22-4 for years and thats a design that originated in the 90s. He didnt super hot at the worlds either. He'd likely be in almost exactly the same position with a HW, Fantom or Reedy esc. ESC differences are some of the most hard to quantify differences, so forgive us if most of us are skeptical that X product is just sooo much better than anything else you've ever driven!

Do you guys have valid points that many products are complete scams and their advertised specs are way off? Yeah sure. But why wouldn't that also apply to what you're selling? Have you made some improvements in stuff you're selling? Yeah sure. Im sure the differences are nice compared to some things, but your marketing hype is not going to win everyone over. Theres lots of that flying around so dont be surprised when you're not the exception to that.

We were also promised that Dakota would win the worlds this year because the ESC is that good.

[QUOTE=Alexv2024;16037213]You were called out in some other thread, and you were going to post some info about transistors or something that proved how much better your escs were.
“Called out” or asked by someone (yourself) information that you do not need to know there is a difference
Dakota winning with your stuff hardly matters, he won with the 22-4 for years
I believe that it matters to him and that he can run any brand of esc’s that he chooses but you do know that out of the 13 National Championships our company has won in our first 5 years wasn’t all his wins correct? I’ll wait while you let me know if any other rc company has won that many in their first 5 years since the beginning of the sport. Not to mention nearly every other major race in our country