Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 15802139)

Who is "we" or are you only talking for your self? I even did pinpoint him to any infomation, you did not gave any answer.....



I did make a discharger (topic can be found with some search) and did notice the power over the whole run did become more consistent.

Originally Posted by Alexv2024 (Post 15802143)

Leaving Lipos charged is the number one thing that hurts them tied with over discharging. I think race grade packs are far better at dealing with it, but you don't find serious racers leaving packs they care about fully charged from week to week. If you accurately track IR's you'll see them degrade by doing that. Puffing is extremely likely as well.

I'm pretty sure cheaper packs are far more failure prone to damage in general, just being lower quality cells.

Proper lipo care helps them last far longer than just leaving them at whatever charge state between runs. I'm at the point where I put my packs at storage voltage (3.8-3.85v) or post run do a balance "charge" where the charger just uses the balance circuitry to make both cells perfectly equal.

Originally Posted by waitwhat;[url=tel:15802171

15802171[/url]]The extent to which a discharger (or any other "must have" go fast accessory) is NEEDED is directly proportional to the DRIVERS ABILITY to extract every bit of performance out of their equipment.

Yesterday when I went racing I won, set the fastest lap, and had a 98.6% consistency. I don't high current cycle my packs (I have an iCharger 406 and a resistor bank, so it isn't for a lack of equipment). I run the smallest batteries I can, so the slight performance gain I get from high current cycling isn't worth the shorter life span of the batteries. I already beat everyone handily by being a better driver. Yesterday also happened to be the first race on a new layout, so I know that I will still be able to go faster as I make some small setup changes and get more comfortable with the layout.

The vast majority of racers need more practice to go faster. A slightly smaller subset of the majority believe that they can buy their way to the front, and forgo the work it takes to learn to go faster.

Originally Posted by valk (Post 15802352)

i think at the end of the day its going to come back to your competition level and your personal perspective.. if i was within spitting distance of even a regional championship id prob use every trick there was to get a last little bit of an edge.. "that time i used tire warmers to win the big barn shootout 2wd...everyone was like wtf... lol"
but i think for club racing.. im just there to have fun and get some laps in.. i know who i'm racing with and some of them use all this shit at club racing.. and some don't.. and its not super noticeable on track if skill levels are kinda similar. sure we say yea, that guys car is fast af... but if he hits stuff or gets bunged up in traffic it doesn't matter haha.
i dont know how to proceed further on this topic cause its just not something i care about haha. but maybe if i come down to cali and try to race my perspective would change.. i dunno.

Originally Posted by performula (Post 15802296)

This forum is to ask questions. The search, grammar (guilty and funny), matter of fact replies are unnecessary.

Originally Posted by RRto997 (Post 15802356)

Actually I do think that if you came down to SoCal, your opinion would change. When you're getting laps in, that usually means you're trying to get faster, to actually become a better driver, shaving a second or two off of your lap times, am I right? If the opportunity arose for you to prolong the life of your batteries while lowering the IR at the same time, would that not help you in trying to attain lower lap times? So track time is always a good thing, but also having a good chassis, electronics, batteries and more would also assist you immensely.

But I digress, come down to SoCal to race, often times a club race is a world class event.

Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 15802357)

About the search I do not agree. Afterr all it is his hobby and a hobby is something you love to do and want to gain knowledge about. Any own research is more helpfull to gain knowledge as you think and it shows that you want to put in some effort and time into your hobby, starting 10 topics in a few days with all kind of questions is not a sign of putting in some effort. And again, why would you ask a thing that is allready asked and aswered many times? I bet if there were 5 topics on top of this forum about this subject he still posted this question looking at the many topics he has started everywhere on this forum and some even dubble.

Regarding all his other questions it would be a better idea if the topicstarter does tell us what he is planning to do. He wants to know if his 2015 Xray is competive, if dischargers are needed, what batteries to fit in his transmitter, what setup station to use and if an antenna less receiver will work.

Originally Posted by valk (Post 15802358)

i wont disagree. though the hosting club gets the decide at the end of the day what tactics you can use.. in the wcics battery temp is measured and it isn't allowed higher than ambient.. some clubs care, some don't.. but one fire is all it takes for insurance to be revoked and we wouldn't have a place to race.. if its a business running a facilty its totally different but most clubs have to rent space which has different requirements ect. maybe i will play with this tactic.. outdoors. hard to have consistancy between runs for comparision though with tire prep and track condition between rounds ect.

Originally Posted by RRto997 (Post 15802435)

How many clubs do not allow a discharger? I have never seen a discharger banned at any track here in California.