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mjordan44847 04-13-2021 06:28 PM

4s battery question.
 
Hello all,

just getting into 1/8 scale off road racing. I bought 2 exact 4s lipos. I purchased these brand new. I went racing Sunday and decided to run 2 classes.

pack one
Took 1 hour 46 mins to charge.
I ran my race 6 mins
I then recharged the battery for round 2
I ran my 2nd race 6 mins
i packed up and went home
when I got home I put it in storage mode which took 1 hour 17 mins.

pack two
Took 22mins to charge.
I ran my race 6 mins
I then recharged the battery for round 2
I ran my 2nd race 6 mins
i packed up and went home
when I got home I put it in storage mode which took 16 mins

charging with an icharger 406duo. Charged at 10amps. Set charger to charge to 4.2v per cell. I set storage at 3.8v per cell. All ir and volts are very similar on both packs.

any and all help is appreciated.

mrreet2001 04-14-2021 06:02 AM

How closely did you monitor it? I am curious if it didn't ramp up to the full 10 amps or if it took a long time balancing it. I have had some batteries just have a bad attitude about balancing. They will charge fine (in the correct amount of time), then sit there and balance back and forth for like 20+ min. A full charge / discharge / full charge (or two) will normally sort them out. If on the other hand the charger doesn't want to go up to the full 10 amps, I would be concerned something is wrong with the battery.

mjordan44847 04-14-2021 08:53 AM

It charged pretty fast it was the balancing that took for ever like you said.

billdelong 04-14-2021 09:57 AM

With my 406duo I always charge my 4S-6.5Ah packs at 20A and depending on depth of discharge it usually takes 15-20 min to get them topped off. I always check the IR of the cells at the end of each charge cycle to make sure the cells are close to 1 mΩ ... I get nervous when any of the cells are farther than 1mΩ apart and I downgrade a pack to a practice pack when any individual cell goes above 7mΩ... I discard the pack when any cell goes above 15mΩ as a personal preference.

mjordan44847 04-14-2021 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by billdelong (Post 15776276)
With my 406duo I always charge my 4S-6Ah packs at 20A and depending on depth of discharge it usually takes 15-20 min to get them topped off. I always check the IR of the cells at the end of each charge cycle to make sure the cells are close to 1 mΩ ... I get nervous when any of the cells are farther than 1mΩ apart and I downgrade a pack to a practice pack when any individual cell goes above 7mΩ... I discard the pack when any cell goes above 15mΩ as a personal preference.


so it shouldn’t cause an issue charging at 20 Amps

billdelong 04-14-2021 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by mjordan44847 (Post 15776365)
so it shouldn’t cause an issue charging at 20 Amps

Generally, most budget brands of batteries will recommend their packs to be charged at 1C or 1 times the capacity of the pack... so a 6.5Ah pack can be safely charged at 6.5A

Since I'm charging my packs at 20A, that works out to 20/6.5 = 3C which is what my packs are rated for by the manufacturer.


Zerodefect 04-15-2021 07:39 AM

Clean the batteries balance plug with isopropyl alcohol.

I charge at 30a.


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