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Garypilot 08-19-2019 11:19 PM

How to charge in low temperature?
 
I once flied in snow weather when it was about 0℃ to capture snow scenery and when I wanted to charge my drone, I found it hard to directly charge outdoors. I have to charge it indoors or in a car where its temperature is higher. Is there anyway I can solve this problem?

Roelof 08-20-2019 12:21 AM

Muchmore (and others) provide a LiPo bag with an heater inside.

Juglenaut 08-20-2019 04:03 PM

You shouldn’t charge the battery when it is at freezing temp or below, this may damage it. It is best to charge any lithium battery above 40f. When the battery runs its cycle it is best to get it to a warm place. Storing a lipo battery is ok below freezing, however it is important to bring the battery up to 40-70f before balancing or discharge at load to warm it up before charging.


Garypilot 08-20-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 15497173)
Muchmore (and others) provide a LiPo bag with an heater inside.

OK, is that bag heavy?

Garypilot 08-20-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Juglenaut (Post 15497530)
You shouldn’t charge the battery when it is at freezing temp or below, this may damage it. It is best to charge any lithium battery above 40f. When the battery runs its cycle it is best to get it to a warm place. Storing a lipo battery is ok below freezing, however it is important to bring the battery up to 40-70f before balancing or discharge at load to warm it up before charging.


Thanks for the reminder, that is what I usually do. But if the battery could heat it up itself, that would spare a lot of work under such temperatue.

Juglenaut 08-20-2019 07:45 PM

The only thing that comes to mind is setting the cutoff to stop sooner and discharge before charging. The only way to heat up the battery internally is discharging it.

Juglenaut 08-20-2019 08:07 PM

Super light batteries are more susceptible to cold temps and slightly higher C rated and lower capacity to keep weights the same may help here. As temp goes down so does the C rating. However you still have to leave some capacity to discharge on the ground either by the plane or by a charger with a decent discharge rate.

Roelof 08-20-2019 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Garypilot (Post 15497608)
OK, is that bag heavy?

Maybe 200 gram.....

http://www.muchmoreracing.net/product_view.php?pidx=1247

Garypilot 08-21-2019 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Juglenaut (Post 15497649)
Super light batteries are more susceptible to cold temps and slightly higher C rated and lower capacity to keep weights the same may help here. As temp goes down so does the C rating. However you still have to leave some capacity to discharge on the ground either by the plane or by a charger with a decent discharge rate.

Why would "slightly higher C rated and lower capacity " help?

Juglenaut 08-22-2019 07:49 PM

The reason is as stated C rating drops with temps overall. You can discharge at lower temps so this is primarily where a higher C rated battery will help and if you are going to operate at sub freezing temps you may have to insulate the battery. If you are concerned about weight then a higher C rated battery at your current capacity will weigh more, if you are not then..,ok.
You ask how to charge in ambient low temps, and the only way is explained.. Either get a lipo bag with a heater of some sort, or operate your battery with a higher cutoff so you can discharge the battery further on a charger with a decent discharge rate. It is ideal to charge a lithium at room temp, and if you want to charge outside in freezing temps the battery of choice must have a high charge rate otherwise charging at 1c on a 2300mah battery may not keep it warm enough.
Lithium polymer and lithium ion batteries are extremely sensitive to low temps and some chemistries will get damaged if trying to charge a sub zero lithium

uDi_MP7.5 08-25-2019 02:47 AM

Juglenaut makes a good point that you should be careful to warm the battery physically to room temp before attemting to charge, charging while the cells are at freezing temperature will damage the lipo.
If warming or leaving to reach room temperature before charging, also be aware that the core of the cell takes a while to warm up compared to the exterior surface.

It's fine for them to sit or even be stored at freezing temperatures, but should not be cycled while frozen. Trying to use (i.e. discharge) while at very low temperatures isn't ideal either, but if they start at room temp then they can keep themselves roughly at that temp while flying+discharging (under load) in freezing conditions. If taking spare packs, keep them warm until ready to start using.


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