Anyone every try data logging on their 1/8 e-buggy?
#1
Anyone every try data logging on their 1/8 e-buggy?
I've known about this feature on my Mamba X but just now getting around to using it.
- 94 amps peak
- 31.8k rpm
- 175F motor temp (after 10 minutes)
This is on 3s 2650kv. Curious to see how it compares to a typical 4s / 1900kv buggy.
- 94 amps peak
- 31.8k rpm
- 175F motor temp (after 10 minutes)
This is on 3s 2650kv. Curious to see how it compares to a typical 4s / 1900kv buggy.
#2
Tech Adept
Everything looks pretty good to me. Ripple is under control. Battery and BEC voltage is stable. It looks like the first datapoint it captured might be bad because of how low the BEC and battery voltages show in their min value, but I don't see anything that looks like it was an issue during the run.
Just in case you didn't know, you can zoom in by dragging a rectangle over the graph to see a smaller section of the data. You can also turn off data sets by clicking their label down at the bottom.
Just in case you didn't know, you can zoom in by dragging a rectangle over the graph to see a smaller section of the data. You can also turn off data sets by clicking their label down at the bottom.
#3
Everything looks pretty good to me. Ripple is under control. Battery and BEC voltage is stable. It looks like the first datapoint it captured might be bad because of how low the BEC and battery voltages show in their min value, but I don't see anything that looks like it was an issue during the run.
Just in case you didn't know, you can zoom in by dragging a rectangle over the graph to see a smaller section of the data. You can also turn off data sets by clicking their label down at the bottom.
Just in case you didn't know, you can zoom in by dragging a rectangle over the graph to see a smaller section of the data. You can also turn off data sets by clicking their label down at the bottom.
#4
Tech Adept
I find it interesting that the ESC temp starts 10 degrees high and the motor temp starts 10 degrees low. If it was a fresh run, both should start at ambient. The thermal sensors used in hobby products arn't great and are hard to get precise numbers out of.
#5
Tech Master
Interesting data. Maybe castle can confirm what I see.
1000 watts peak in
probably 60-70 percent efficient
so about 650 watts of peak output power?
is that close?
1000 watts peak in
probably 60-70 percent efficient
so about 650 watts of peak output power?
is that close?
#6
No. Something is extremely wrong if you're getting efficiency that low at higher loads. There isn't nearly enough cooling to keep up with those kinds of losses except at low loads.
#7
#8
Sorry for the confusion, I was talking to Bry.
#9
Tech Adept
#10
Tech Master
1.2hp....amazing.
I cant claim to know more about the system then castle but is above what Ive seen on any stock class system and is about what you get out of the most refined moto control systems that exist.
Now i need someone to lend me one to test!
I cant claim to know more about the system then castle but is above what Ive seen on any stock class system and is about what you get out of the most refined moto control systems that exist.
Now i need someone to lend me one to test!
#11
Tech Master
check my dyno curves ive been putting on here for 17.5, 21.5, and 25.5. I just applied the efficiencies i see on these smaller motors. Just an assumption.
#12
Tech Adept
In 1/8th scale there was no electric buggies until we came out with the original Mamba Monster and 1515 motor because there was no motors that could survive the load of 1/8th scale. We had to start the e-buggy class by making electric conversion kits for nitro buggies because no one made electric buggies at the time. In 1/8th scale, most of the other motor brands are similarly efficient because they have to be.
Also worth mentioning that the motor he has can do over 2hp and our 1/5th scale motor, the 2028, can peak over 10hp from a motor about the size of a soda can.
#13
It's interesting. Part of me wants to try either 1800 or 2200kv on 4s but at this point there's no reason too. I get 12 minutes of run time at Amain race pace on my 3s 5400mah packs with this setup. My only remaining question will be heat once we get into the 90's.
#14
Tech Adept
If it is 20 degrees hotter outside, the esc and motor will be 20 degrees hotter at the end of a run. Ambient vs ESC temperature pretty much scales linearly. You shouldn't have any issues at any temperature below 130F. You'll give in before it does.
#15
Awesome! That's super comforting!