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TxLoser 05-09-2019 10:28 AM

Where or how do you guys dispose of the bad lipos, I’ve got two, one of which has a bad cell or lost connection to the cell, and the other puffed enough to split the case a little.

Krio 05-09-2019 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by TxLoser (Post 15446615)
Where or how do you guys dispose of the bad lipos, I’ve got two, one of which has a bad cell or lost connection to the cell, and the other puffed enough to split the case a little.

Few recycling places will accept lipo cells. To throw them away in the garbage, you need to discharge them to 0 volts by submerging the pack in a bucket of salt water (couple table spoons of salt per gallon) and leave it there for a day or two. You should notice bubbles forming on any exposed terminals. Once the bubbles stop, the pack is dead and safe to throw away.

frewster 05-09-2019 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by TxLoser (Post 15446615)
Where or how do you guys dispose of the bad lipos, I’ve got two, one of which has a bad cell or lost connection to the cell, and the other puffed enough to split the case a little.

Completely discharge them and take them to your local hazardous waste location. Most cities and counties have one.

Xpress.. 05-09-2019 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by beemerfan (Post 15445027)
What's the purpose of the vent hole? I've stored mine in an ammo can for years and have never done this. I'd prefer not to give a potential fire access to any oxygen. I know that lead-acid batteries need to "vent" but I've never heard a reason why LiPo would.

Ammo cans typically have some kind of rubber seal around the lid which ensures they are air tight. If a battery ignites inside and takes out the rest of the packs, that pressure could potentially build inside to the point where the ammo can explodes. Has there been any documented proof of this? Don't think so, but the theory is sound and it takes 10 seconds to drill a small 1/8-1/4" hole in the lid or side to ensure the pressure does not build. Some flame may escape out of this hole but I think the consensus is that it won't be significant enough to ignite surrounding materials, considering you should be storing batteries away from flammable surfaces/substances...

ExRCRacer 05-09-2019 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by TxLoser (Post 15446615)
Where or how do you guys dispose of the bad lipos, I’ve got two, one of which has a bad cell or lost connection to the cell, and the other puffed enough to split the case a little.

I take my bad LiPo's to a local tire place (Warren Tire). They said they are obligated to accept dirty oil and LiPo batteries from people by law who bring it in. Perhaps your local tire shop or mechanic may do the same.

ExRCRacer 05-09-2019 06:12 PM

I have my conclusion I think...
 

Originally Posted by frewster (Post 15446245)
Me too. I only recently got a lipo bag after years of running. All I do is use common sense - don't keep them in a hot car, don't over or under volt them, make sure they aren't physically damaged etc.

I've come to the conclusion this is probably the most logical answer. Today I was at Harbor Frieight with every intention to buy more ammo cans, but the cases with foam inserts that are weatherproof, dust-proof and impact resistant kept catching my eye. I read through the little warning & instruction booklet that came with a new LiPo I bought (Gens Ace) and it talked mainly about charging and discharging. I'd go as far as to say 95% of it was about that. The only mention of storage was referencing an acceptable temperature range and way from flammable items. No mention of keeping them in charging bags, inside fireproof cases, nothing like that.

I've also posed this question elsewhere and the answers are quite unanimous in a "better safe than sorry" consensus. Yet, everyone's answer is the same - inside a LiPo bag, inside of an Ammo can - yet, the ammo can could potentially act as a bomb with excessive pressure build up, or if you vent it, it may not be a bomb, but the flames will certainly not be contained within the ammo can - so really, what use is it? It appears people are being a bit overly cautious. Hell, I was too - and STILL putting my ass at risk even thinking I was doing right! Who puts just one LiPo in an ammo can? Do you have a can for each individual LiPo you own? I'd imagine we all put a couple in there - then comes the second question - do you put them in separate LiPo bags at $10.00 a pop, or do you put them in the same LiPo bag in the same can? Believe it or not, you're at greater risk doing that in your ammo can than you are doing what I'm doing (as pictured below). The warning / instructions I read specifically say, "Do not store LiPo's in a manner in which the leads can potentially touch". For years I stored 2 LiPo's in a LiPo charge bag inside the same ammo can not realizing the risk. Damn...

So - to each their own, but I think after doing research and getting some opinions / suggestions, the temperature of where the LiPo's are being stored is the paramount concern, and not necessarily what they are being stored in. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...074b2e952d.jpg

frewster 05-09-2019 06:35 PM

Where did you get those cases? They look like the Seahorse case I just got.

ExRCRacer 05-09-2019 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by frewster (Post 15446882)
Where did you get those cases? They look like the Seahorse case I just got.

Harbor Freight. $29.99 per case and comes with the inserts.

Bry195 05-09-2019 07:15 PM

Is ammo can short for ammunition can? Im not a paid professional but ive blown plenty of batteries intentionally. Im going to rate a 6000mah 2s 50c at 20 sparklers on the sparkler scale. They burn pretty slow. I havent seen something that would lead me to believe there would be allot of pressure.

frewster 05-09-2019 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by ExRCRacer (Post 15446887)
Harbor Freight. $29.99 per case and comes with the inserts.

Thank you. I might have to get one to compare....

ExRCRacer 05-09-2019 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bry195 (Post 15446903)
Is ammo can short for ammunition can? Im not a paid professional but ive blown plenty of batteries intentionally. Im going to rate a 6000mah 2s 50c at 20 sparklers on the sparkler scale. They burn pretty slow. I havent seen something that would lead me to believe there would be allot of pressure.

I agree Bry. I just think many in the RC community are just super vigilant about it. Overly so honestly...

GuyIsDamGood 05-12-2019 04:47 PM

When not charging my Li-Po batteries; I store them in a Li-Po Flack - Jacket - Case.

KoP 05-18-2019 08:09 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...18fd59932.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...790e645e7.jpeg

Travel case- overkill

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...6c9dddf03.jpeg
I don’t put too much faith in a lipo sack for storage or charging.
I purchased a Bat-Safe as I have confidence in them after watching their videos proving the retention of a fire caused by overcharging.

I nearly blew up a battery while charging (still do not know what I did wrong? Over current, wrong charger setting, dunno?). Anyhow caught it when it had swollen up the size of my fist. Super scary!!! So after a bit of research, the Bat-Safe looked to be the only real answer for containing lipo fires. They make two sizes and cost less than the price of one battery.

Tek97 05-19-2019 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by KoP (Post 15451278)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...18fd59932.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...790e645e7.jpeg

Travel case- overkill

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...6c9dddf03.jpeg
I don’t put too much faith in a lipo sack for storage or charging.
I purchased a Bat-Safe as I have confidence in them after watching their videos proving the retention of a fire caused by overcharging.

I nearly blew up a battery while charging (still do not know what I did wrong? Over current, wrong charger setting, dunno?). Anyhow caught it when it had swollen up the size of my fist. Super scary!!! So after a bit of research, the Bat-Safe looked to be the only real answer for containing lipo fires. They make two sizes and cost less than the price of one battery.

Very timely, I've been looking into the bat-safe recently so thanks for posting that. Just need to confirm how many 2S' and 1S' I can (or should?) fit into it for storage.


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