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1/8 IC Fan 02-23-2019 05:23 PM

Performa 1/8 Motor and ESC Thread
 
Looks interesting https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...a8d28eabd1.jpg... seems like a step in the right direction.

Skaar_rc 02-23-2019 11:14 PM

My concern with this motor is the opening for cooling.

dtr 02-24-2019 07:59 AM

An e-clip is frightening.

1/8 IC Fan 02-24-2019 07:19 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...5e06037493.jpg
Its actually closed, that is where the sensor board sits.

Skaar_rc 02-24-2019 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 1/8 IC Fan (Post 15402122)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...5e06037493.jpg
Its actually closed, that is where the sensor board sits.

This one is the Performa P1 1/8 Motor

While the first image you posted is the Performa P1 1/8 Radical Motor

The radical version has extra cut out at fin area, claimed to dissipate heat faster.
Would be OK for onroad. But for outdoor offroad track, dirt might get stuck inside the motor

1/8 IC Fan 02-26-2019 07:30 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...8519d90a52.jpg
Yes i get that, but i am trying to show that is where the sensor board belongs, as on their other motors.

here it is seen...

1/8 IC Fan 03-08-2019 10:25 PM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...8f50d41199.jpg
Here is the new 690

Skaar_rc 03-09-2019 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by 1/8 IC Fan (Post 15410448)

So they ditch the vented can design... The price is similar to hobbywing 4268 sd g2... Should be a one of the option for anyone looking for new motor...

1/8 IC Fan 03-11-2019 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Skaar_rc (Post 15410541)
So they ditch the vented can design... The price is similar to hobbywing 4268 sd g2... Should be a one of the option for anyone looking for new motor...

No thats a new motor in 690 size, like what some use in Truggy.

David Ronnefalk interview here:

David Ronnefalk talks about Performa Racing -NeoBuggy.net ? Offroad RC Car News

UK.hardcore 03-20-2019 09:16 AM

Performa P1 HMX 1/8 Combo
 
This went online yesterday;https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...85ab7de6c7.jpg


RADICAL CONCEPT
Performa is a brand for Elite Racers. Our goal is to produce the best 1/8 controllers and motors, and re-define the racer experience with a radical “next level” controller/motor combo. With the Performa Racing HMX 1/8 Combo we are proud to demonstrate that we have achieved our goal. Nitro racing is popular because it’s simple, racers chose a 3 Port, 5 Port or 7 Port engine depending on the track, tune the needles to have good carburation, and drive. That’s all. Performa has now adapted that simplicity to electric racing. Controllers and motors used recently in 1/8 racing have hundreds (even thousands) of complex settings. While trying to understand and adjust the complex settings, many racers get lost and end up with tuning that is below optimal performance. The new Performa HMX Controller/Motor Combos deliver simplified settings using the Nitro concept, you select from 3 different pre-defined settings based on the track condition. No need to have a complex program box or a computer. The 3 settings have been tuned by our engineering team together with our World Champion Drivers to deliver maximum performance and simplicity. You can change the settings by simply pressing a button on the switch. For racers that want to dig deeper and fine tune the settings, we will offer Performa PC software that will allow you to change the parameters, within guidelines that ensure you don’t get lost and keep you in the optimal performance range.

RADICAL TECHNOLOGY
It became clear during research and development that making universal controllers for universal motors limits maximum performance, and is not the right way to reach our goal of making radical “next level” controllers and motors for Elite racers. The new Performa HMX Controller features a very innovative type of sensor technology developed for optimal performance when used only with Performa Radical HMX 690 motors. It delivers maximum power and smooth power delivery, radical “next level” performance that goes beyond what a compromised universal system can provide.

RADICAL SOLUTIONS
The Performa HMX Controller is designed and manufactured without compromise. Each controller is assembled in Geneva Switzerland, it is a high end unit produced in limited quantities for Elite Racers. The circuit boards are made in one of the most sophisticated factories, every board is scanned using laser analyzing devices for each soldering joint and every component. The all-aluminum case has been designed for minimum footprint and optimized cooling. Performa external capacitors have been chosen to obtain Radical Performance. Featuring 2 boards of 4 Panasonic capacitors to provide radical “next level” performance.

RADICAL TESTING
The Performa Racing HMX 1/8 Combos have been tested for more than two years by our engineering team, and for a year one by David Ronnefalk, IFMAR World Champion. Recently David made a demonstration of the radical performance by winning the famous 2019 DNC race in the USA.

IMPORTANT
Note that the Performa HMX Controller analyses if a Performa Radical HMX 690 motor is connected, it will not work with other motors. The Performa Radical HMX 690 motors will work with other controllers, but offer maximum performance only when used with a Performa HMX Controller.

FEATURES
  • Performa Radical Sensor System to reduce sensor interference and improve feeling
  • World Championship winning motor technology
  • Performa Radical Housing - Machined aluminum can with maximum cooling for lowest running temperatures
  • 100% sensored mode with advanced technology
  • Optimized Hall Sensor System with fail-safe protection to reduce cogging
  • Double insulated high temperature winding wires
  • High quality Japanese competition bearings
  • High-intensity adhesive for optimal winding wire binding to reduce vibration and lower operational temperatures
  • 4 pole NdFeB magnets, EH temp resistant up to 210C, with fiberglass vibration protection
  • Dual sensor wire port with housing dust covers
  • Alloy double anodized multi-color lightweight case with optimized airflow
  • Low resistance - Heavy copper soldering tabs for higher power
  • Japan high quality silicon steel stator
  • Precision dynamically balanced rotor
  • Meets all IFMAR/EFRA/ROAR specs for “690” style motors
  • Compatible with all ESCs on the market
  • Fully rebuildable
  • Optional magnets and tuning parts available

Nils Ssx8r 03-21-2019 03:37 AM

Why only running on 4s and not 6s?

1/8 IC Fan 03-21-2019 04:00 AM

Maybe they are gearing to those of us that race the Buri racer and its clones on 4S or 2S x 2S? Which seems to be taking off well. In my old RX8 conversion I never ran 6S, because on short tracks its overkill.

UK.hardcore 03-21-2019 09:28 AM

off-road race regulations are 4S maximum.

IC Fan, can you change the tread title to include the controller?

Flipnsticks 05-02-2019 12:48 PM

This esc motor combo is awesome. The brakes are super nice. The throttle can be set to match really well with the nitro car.

This has made it easier to drive and easier to switch between nitro and ebuggy.

The timing of jumps and brakes are super close between the 2 and can be tuned in to be basically the same.

1/8 IC Fan 05-02-2019 07:16 PM

I really hope that their ESC and Motors will also work with other brands, and not be a proprietary system. I.e. Performa ESC only works with Performa Motors and Vice Versa! Given that Performa is basically a new "Team Orion"


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