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Old 12-06-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Roelof View Post
Does the 150 dollar rules say something about tax? If not then there is a hole in the rule....
Neither ROAR nor Trinity have any control over sales tax. In places like Montana and Oregon you pay no sales tax, in parts of Washington and California you pay around 10%. Because it varies so wildly across the country and even between individual counties and cities within each state it should not be a factor.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK View Post
what ROAR approved motor did you run in 4x4 SCT?
I'm running the HobbyWing 4300KV motor which is listed on the approval list here:
http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/...lessmotors.php




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Old 12-10-2018, 07:26 PM
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Any clown can come up with a rule, and even convince people to vote it in

The issue of actually enforcing it is another matter.

If a rule isn't enforced, it's not worth the paper it's written on. Roar's "$150 motor" rule has about as much bite as a geriatric tiger with no teeth.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:54 PM
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Always loop holes. Sell motor for $150 and offer all the hop ups as separate items.
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:04 PM
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Always loop holes. Sell motor for $150 and offer all the hop ups as separate items.
That's not really a loop hole. It's explicitly allowed.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex View Post
That's not really a loop hole. It's explicitly allowed.
Yep, according to the ROAR rules, you could add $500 worth of upgrades to a motor as long as the starting price of the assembled motor was no more than $150 and it would still be legal, but that's not the point.

I'm curious as to why:
A. No other manufacturer has put motors out there for a price greater than $150.00.
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B. Why all of the other manufacturers that are playing by the rules have not banded together and forced ROAR to enforce their rule.

It all seems fishy to me.
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Could be fishy, but remember those overpriced Orion Magnesium motors... but to be honest if someone wants to run Trinity and pay those prices, well then why not... or run something else. Is that "overpriced" Trinity any better than the next motor, probably not, considerring how far manufacturing and brushless technology has come. Ran Trinity for a while, 1/8 onroad (not GT) but after a while I got tired of paying their prices, so i moved on...

will ROAR do something about it, probably not, they possibly have to worry about other things!

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Originally Posted by 1/8 IC Fan View Post
Could be fishy, but remember those overpriced Orion Magnesium motors... but to be honest if someone wants to run Trinity and pay those prices, well then why not... or run something else. Is that "overpriced" Trinity any better than the next motor, probably not, considerring how far manufacturing and brushless technology has come. Ran Trinity for a while, 1/8 onroad (not GT) but after a while I got tired of paying their prices, so i moved on...

will ROAR do something about it, probably not, they possibly have to worry about other things!

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hmm I wonder what Bert thinks
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hmm I wonder what Bert thinks
He can't be bothered right now, still working on gluing up those drive pulleys.
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This topic is something that has been bugging me for awhile. In my opinion, Trinity just sits atop their high horse and hold the threat of suing Roar if Roar bans the motor like their rules say. Other manufacturers are trying to stay within the spirit of the rule. I personally don't think that Trinity plays fair, but that may be an entirely different conversation. What I do know, is that I try my best not to use their products, because I do not want to support a company like them.
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Originally Posted by trilerian View Post
This topic is something that has been bugging me for awhile. In my opinion, Trinity just sits atop their high horse and hold the threat of suing Roar if Roar bans the motor like their rules say. Other manufacturers are trying to stay within the spirit of the rule. I personally don't think that Trinity plays fair, but that may be an entirely different conversation. What I do know, is that I try my best not to use their products, because I do not want to support a company like them.
Agreed. I try not to support them either, but winning one of their motors in a raffle means I'm currently using one Luckily it wasn't the certified one.
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It all comes down to the fact that people can be bullied or bought into inaction. Trinity and other companies know these rules are just on paper only, noone's going to spend the time to enforce them, so it's a non factor. You could ask roar or whoever to grow a pair and enforce them but then it becomes nasty, legal challenges etc, over toy car motors... come on!

I learnt the hard way what happens when you try and stand up for something, and the bullying that accompanies it, so I figure best not to get worked up with these things now, not worth the hassle. You're never going to beat these people on your own, you just have to hope in time the majority overrules and that not too much damage is done to the hobby in the interim
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I think the whole rule needs banned. It makes no sense and is almost pointless
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Originally Posted by nexxus View Post
It all comes down to the fact that people can be bullied or bought into inaction. Trinity and other companies know these rules are just on paper only, noone's going to spend the time to enforce them, so it's a non factor. You could ask roar or whoever to grow a pair and enforce them but then it becomes nasty, legal challenges etc, over toy car motors... come on!

I learnt the hard way what happens when you try and stand up for something, and the bullying that accompanies it, so I figure best not to get worked up with these things now, not worth the hassle. You're never going to beat these people on your own, you just have to hope in time the majority overrules and that not too much damage is done to the hobby in the interim
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