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Old 07-19-2019, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mediumquick
Yeah, I've had the same problem-- It's a real dog
It's funny. I have two of the 25.5Ts. I set them to about 5.5 amps with a 3.7 FDR and both have performed better than any other motor I've run. My first one did have a break in period. It took about 40 minutes of run time before it "loosened up" if that makes sense. The second one was strong from the get go with no serious break in time. Bearings and all have been good on all my V4s motors. I've got 2 8.5s and 2 25.5s.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by triguy1975
From what I've seen of reviews of the V4R versus V4S.. the S is the way to go. They are both strong, but the S tested stronger.
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I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 13.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 36 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 45) which should give 3664 kv drawing 4.1 amps for my 2wd buggy.


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Old 07-19-2019, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nesbot
I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 13.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 36 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 45) which should give 3664 kv drawing 4.1 amps for my 2wd buggy.


i like your method. how did you interpret the curve to arrive at 36? it looks like what i would pick too but just curious,
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Originally Posted by nesbot
I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 13.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 36 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 45) which should give 3664 kv drawing 4.1 amps for my 2wd buggy.


Thank you for your analyse
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Originally Posted by Bry195

i like your method. how did you interpret the curve to arrive at 36? it looks like what i would pick too but just curious,
Here is the table data that goes with the graph... I just went down the KV+ % increase and Amps+ increase until I saw a small increase vs a large increase. I think between the graph and table data the answer jumps out at ya :-) I was too lazy to try 37.5 ! LOL



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I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 17.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 49 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 48) which should give 3019 kv drawing 4.7 amps for my 2wd buggy. Getting 49 on the end bell wasn't an exact science but its closer to 48 than 51.

There seems to be a very narrow setting available before the amps start to "sky rocket"... pun intended.


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Just purchased Surpass Rocket VS4 13.5 motor from Amazon what pinion gear should start my D418? Coming from trinity monster 13.5
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Old 08-12-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by raved007
Just purchased Surpass Rocket VS4 13.5 motor from Amazon what pinion gear should start my D418? Coming from trinity monster 13.5
Try an FDR of 7.5 - 8 . I forget the timing to start with, but maybe a range of 45 - 49 . Also spin it up before you put it into the car, see if you get any wear on that top plate "nipple" portion. If you do dremel that slightly. There is info in this tthread about this.
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Originally Posted by Cain
Try an FDR of 7.5 - 8 . I forget the timing to start with, but maybe a range of 45 - 49 . Also spin it up before you put it into the car, see if you get any wear on that top plate "nipple" portion. If you do dremel that slightly. There is info in this tthread about this.
Thanks will try maybe 45 timing
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Old 08-12-2019, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by raved007
Thanks will try maybe 45 timing
The timing on both mine is around 50deg (its hard to see on the can but the motor analyser gave me an average of 50deg).

I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.

I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T
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Originally Posted by jgil089
The timing on both mine is around 50deg (its hard to see on the can but the motor analyser gave me an average of 50deg).

I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.

I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T
I'm running 35 pinion/ exotek 68 spur gear with 13.5 trinity monster it was fast like mod but yesterday i blew up both HMX orion esc and trinity motor i don't know what happened. It was first run with new orion battery with LCG 4000mah then first jump it stop so other racers pick up my buggy he said seems like the motor i thought it was sensor cable then it works again i plug in fresh battery it smoke positive cable ESC i thought was swap (+) and (-) but it's not local racer he solder the positive cable but still same problem. And waiting new Hobbywing just stock ESC and pair with surpass V4S 13.5 let see how can compared with HMX/Trinity monster
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:39 AM
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I'd run a a better capacitor on the HW just stock personally than what it comes with.
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Originally Posted by Cain
I'd run a a better capacitor on the HW just stock personally than what it comes with.
What kind of capacitor you'd running?
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