Surpass V4S Motors
#376
It's funny. I have two of the 25.5Ts. I set them to about 5.5 amps with a 3.7 FDR and both have performed better than any other motor I've run. My first one did have a break in period. It took about 40 minutes of run time before it "loosened up" if that makes sense. The second one was strong from the get go with no serious break in time. Bearings and all have been good on all my V4s motors. I've got 2 8.5s and 2 25.5s.
#377
#379
Tech Adept
I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 13.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 36 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 45) which should give 3664 kv drawing 4.1 amps for my 2wd buggy.
#380
Tech Master
i like your method. how did you interpret the curve to arrive at 36? it looks like what i would pick too but just curious,
#381
#382
Tech Adept
#383
Tech Adept
I used a motor analyzer on my surpass v4s 17.5. Based on these results I plan on starting with 49 on the end bell (analyzer avg is 48) which should give 3019 kv drawing 4.7 amps for my 2wd buggy. Getting 49 on the end bell wasn't an exact science but its closer to 48 than 51.
There seems to be a very narrow setting available before the amps start to "sky rocket"... pun intended.
There seems to be a very narrow setting available before the amps start to "sky rocket"... pun intended.
#385
Try an FDR of 7.5 - 8 . I forget the timing to start with, but maybe a range of 45 - 49 . Also spin it up before you put it into the car, see if you get any wear on that top plate "nipple" portion. If you do dremel that slightly. There is info in this tthread about this.
#387
Tech Regular
The timing on both mine is around 50deg (its hard to see on the can but the motor analyser gave me an average of 50deg).
I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.
I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T
I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.
I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T
#388
Tech Master
iTrader: (36)
The timing on both mine is around 50deg (its hard to see on the can but the motor analyser gave me an average of 50deg).
I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.
I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T
I found that compared to other motors they need to be geared up (I mean a bigger pinion / lower FDR, up or down can be taken either way). From a Trackstar v1 in my 2wd buggy I went from a 32 to 35 pinion, all else stayed the same, and in my 4wd buggy I went up 2 pinions. By comparison, I had to drop a pinion in my 4wd when changing from Trackstar V1 to an Orca Blitreme.
I run an HB 418 now too and needed the Exotek centre diff cap to allow a smaller spur to get anywhere near the FDR needed for 17.5T, I'm not sure if you will run into the same problems running 13.5T