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nashrcracer 02-09-2018 08:43 AM

Ichargers causing damage to batteries?
 
since this seems to be more an onroad issue.

has anybody proved that NORMAL charging with a 308 406 or 4010 is prematurely damaging batteries?

saw a post that one company won't warranty their battery if it was charged with a icharger

JayL 02-09-2018 09:41 AM

That's because they figure the only reason you bought an icharger is to go 30-40amps

the rc guy 02-09-2018 09:48 AM

ive been using my 308 for years no problem.. but i will say the old duratrax ice charger killed many lipos b4 i sat and watched what it did during a normal 1c charge at 5 amps.. it would finish charge then recycle and go back to charging at 5 amps..bye bye 5 batts b4 i could figure it out..

nashrcracer 02-09-2018 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by JayL (Post 15153470)
That's because they figure the only reason you bought an icharger is to go 30-40amps

I would agree with that, but what I hear is that it's even at normal 1C charging that it is causing issue. but I can't find any place that is talking about this even being an issue.

and to think that all the Heli guys use the 4010 to charge 8S batteries all the time that it would of been brought to light quicker as they are using 32volts and high amps input

MarkA 02-09-2018 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by nashrcracer (Post 15153536)
I would agree with that, but what I hear is that it's even at normal 1C charging that it is causing issue. but I can't find any place that is talking about this even being an issue.

and to think that all the Heli guys use the 4010 to charge 8S batteries all the time that it would of been brought to light quicker as they are using 32volts and high amps input

I also haven't heard of any issues with "normal" charging on an icharger but I also agree with Jay, no battery company is going to believe you bought it for that. Nobody I know who has one charged within the realm of sanity with it until a few local tracks instituted their own max charge rate rules and since that was forced on people, no reported battery issues.

DirkW 02-09-2018 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by MarkA (Post 15153544)
Nobody I know who has one charged within the realm of sanity with it until a few local tracks instituted their own max charge rate rules and since that was forced on people, no reported battery issues.

Granted, you don't know me, so technically your statement is still true ;), but I've never charged above 2C on my 406 Duo yet (nor am I really intending to - so far) - and not because it's been banned or anything, but because I haven't felt the need to do so (and I simply didn't want to risk any of my batteries...). It's nice that I could, though..

But I have a hard time anyway, imagining that anyone over here would really act on their warranty at all on an item like a battery, once it has been in use for a couple of weeks after purchase - just a feeling though: so far none of mine has ever even puffed, and I never had to try to go for warranty.

Roelof 02-09-2018 01:14 PM

Maybe it is better to give us a link where that is written. If it is by a single user he probably did something wrong or had a faulty charger.

gigaplex 02-09-2018 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by nashrcracer (Post 15153536)
I would agree with that, but what I hear is that it's even at normal 1C charging that it is causing issue. but I can't find any place that is talking about this even being an issue.

I have to ask: where are you hearing about this issue if you can't find anyone talking about the issue? :confused:

the rc guy 02-09-2018 04:02 PM

just did a google search with 5 only results none where with i charger ...

disaster999 02-09-2018 05:11 PM

Unless with solid undeniable proof that either the battery or the charger is defective, I find it hard ANY battery or charger company would warrant the claims. Its too easy playing the blaming game.

platgof 02-10-2018 05:59 PM

Fake news! I have been using a 206B for awhile now, and it is a great charger. It never overcharges. When I need a 4s pack up quick, it easily handles it. Fake news brought to you from the inferior competition!

Dave_S 02-10-2018 06:27 PM

I've been charging all kinds of batteries on both sides of my 4010 since it was first released. The charger is crazy awesome. However, I do run a 48 volt test equipment power supply and not some hacked together server power supplies.

biz77 02-12-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dave_S (Post 15154691)
I've been charging all kinds of batteries on both sides of my 4010 since it was first released. The charger is crazy awesome. However, I do run a 48 volt test equipment power supply and not some hacked together server power supplies.

You mean hacked together server power supplies that are relied upon for continuous use to run multi-thousand dollar servers, which are relied upon by multi-million dollar or billion dollar companies? Yeah... You probably shouldn't use one on your $300 iCharger.

dietDrThunder 02-12-2018 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Dave_S (Post 15154691)
I've been charging all kinds of batteries on both sides of my 4010 since it was first released. The charger is crazy awesome. However, I do run a 48 volt test equipment power supply and not some hacked together server power supplies.

There is nothing 'hacked together' about using a computer server psu. Those psu's output straight-up 12VDC at the specified amperage on one DC rail with excellent regulation; this is exactly what you want in an RC psu.

The 'hacking' you refer to consists entirely of adding a connector so that standard bullet connectors can easily be used.

More expensive doesn't always mean better.

platgof 02-12-2018 05:31 PM

I also use a PSU power supply, but I think he refers to some of the home built 24 volt rigs that could be dangerous. The ones by themselves are really good and are very dependable. Mine has been going for over a year, and it is small and powerful. Go price a 62 amp power supply, mine cost $25 ready to go.


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