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tbrymer 01-21-2018 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by 200sxr (Post 15132816)
I am wondering what is the gain from having a sensor board that is within +/- 1 deg from each other vs say 3-4 deg. In theory there is gain to be had, does anyone has actual experience say from dyno chart to actually prove the point?

The cheap motor analysers are relatively accurate (say within 1 deg consistently), have anyone else try to align bad sensor board to gain performance?

The simple answer is yes. I've compared badly aligned sensor board with a good aligned sensor board and I can tell the difference on the track in 17.5T motors. Can't speak on other motors, or on a dyno. I did keep everything the same in my testing, even the amp draw on the motor.

With this said, I think that the affect of having a bad sensor could be overcome by writing smarter ESC software that adjusts the timing of the pulse between the poles. I'm not sure how the software is currently handling the amount of time between reading the hall sensors and when they actually pulse the poll with voltage. So maybe some ESC just keep the time equal between all three phases and others might be smarter about how they handle it.

Randy_Pike 01-21-2018 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by tbrymer (Post 15136185)
With this said, I think that the affect of having a bad sensor could be overcome by writing smarter ESC software that adjusts the timing of the pulse between the poles. I'm not sure how the software is currently handling the amount of time between reading the hall sensors and when they actually pulse the poll with voltage. So maybe some ESC just keep the time equal between all three phases and others might be smarter about how they handle it.

Unfortunately this is illegal ;)

Roelof 01-22-2018 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by Randy_Pike (Post 15136284)
Unfortunately this is illegal ;)

You think?
As long you will not have any influence on the timing and the ESC is determing the same timing every time you switch it on and give throttle you will have the ideal stock ESC

gigaplex 01-22-2018 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 15136344)
You think?
As long you will not have any influence on the timing and the ESC is determing the same timing every time you switch it on and give throttle you will have the ideal stock ESC

Yes. ROAR requires the phase change to occur within a set time after the motor signal changes in blinky mode. They're not allowed to do any fancy interpolation.

Roelof 01-22-2018 02:13 AM

So an electronic timing through blinky is mandatory but the mechanical timing through the endbell is still endless.......

Over here we drive with a stock ESC with blinky AND a fixed endbell, so you have to have luck with positive tolerances. To outrule the (cheated) tolerances such an ESC would outrule it all.


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