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Old 11-14-2017, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Raman
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You closed the other thread which received posts and support by MRT to replace it with this one.

Now we have a thread where everyone is arguing to the legalities of MRTs transponders versus support or solutions.

Since you are a moderator, I ask you to get this thread on the subject or support for MRT transponders

Thank you!
1) I closed the last thread because the subject matter was old and honestly dead; concerning Mylaps and MRT. In THAT thread.

2) Like what is being discussed or not, this is the thread to use for the most current issue on the compatibility between MyLaps and MRT regarding the current OPTIONAL MyLaps decoder box firmware update.

3) I don't need to get this or any other thread in support of anything, especially MRT.

4) If you want specific support on this forum, in this thread from MRT. Contact this guy. He's certainly free to give any updates or provide any info on what MRT is doing in order to be able to continue copying/cloning MyLaps PT's.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:09 PM
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looking to get a transponder , is it safe to get a new one or not? I have no clue what all this means in this thread,lol. I did ask at my local track about the mylaps system being updated and they claimed to have no clue about any of this.
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Originally Posted by a1
looking to get a transponder , is it safe to get a new one or not? I have no clue what all this means in this thread,lol. I did ask at my local track about the mylaps system being updated and they claimed to have no clue about any of this.
Long as they don't upgrade to the newer version (for drone racing) , no need to worry. All the popular ones will still work.
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Originally Posted by a1
looking to get a transponder , is it safe to get a new one or not? I have no clue what all this means in this thread,lol. I did ask at my local track about the mylaps system being updated and they claimed to have no clue about any of this.
If you buy a brand new MyLaps you are set, no matter, then you don't have to worry like you do if you buy a non-MyLaps one.
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so whats the process to trade in my old AMB for a new one, how much of a discount do I get?
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Originally Posted by eortizr
so whats the process to trade in my old AMB for a new one, how much of a discount do I get?
$25 credit... explained 1 page back: R/C Tech Forums - View Single Post - MyLaps update killing MRT, AMBrc DP and house transponders!
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Originally Posted by Roelof
I believe the system for the Kyosho dNano is just based on rfid. But rfid is I believe too slow.
We have used RFID UHF Tags for MX Racing, track was 5m wide, without
problem....

The only things that is bad, the anti-collision system from RFID is to wait
a random time, and resend data, so when two or more tag are read at the same time , you cannot seen with was first ans second
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Originally Posted by mroc
We have used RFID UHF Tags for MX Racing, track was 5m wide, without
problem....

The only things that is bad, the anti-collision system from RFID is to wait
a random time, and resend data, so when two or more tag are read at the same time , you cannot seen with was first ans second
I think its just a matter of time before some one comes out with tech that solves this issue. Amazon has been pushing physical store fronts hard in the past few years with no cashiers. I've seen it mentioned they are working on RFID systems to accomplish this goal.
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Originally Posted by Darkgenerals
I think its just a matter of time before some one comes out with tech that solves this issue. Amazon has been pushing physical store fronts hard in the past few years with no cashiers. I've seen it mentioned they are working on RFID systems to accomplish this goal.
Cashier systems don't need split second accuracy.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Cashier systems don't need split second accuracy.
Thats true, but you really think if some firm does the research and hard work to improve the technology they wont try to sell it to other markets?
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Originally Posted by Darkgenerals
Thats true, but you really think if some firm does the research and hard work to improve the technology they wont try to sell it to other markets?
They could try, but the physics behind RFID will make it hard to get split second accuracy and since that's not a key requirement for them, they're not likely to put effort into the engineering.
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your right, I know amazon was doing it in some of their beta stores with camera system help track products and people.
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AMB invented this tech in the 80s. So that patent is expired. That is how mrt was making transponders. MYLAPS has a 2012 patent which is good for 20 years and I would bet there is something in the rc4 transponder that is patented that keeps mrt from making full rc4 compatible transponders. Now the switch has been flipped to disable rc3 and rc2 compatibility in rc4+ decoders.

Someone will have to make a decoder that copies the rc2/3 and it won’t work with non hybrid rc4 transponders. Who is going to pay for that? Better to figure how to hack the rc4 decoder and fix the firmware.
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Originally Posted by windellmc
Someone will have to make a decoder that copies the rc2/3 and it won’t work with non hybrid rc4 transponders. Who is going to pay for that?
Someone already has, and you can build one yourself:
RCHourglass DIY Lap Timing (AKA Cano revised)
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Originally Posted by racer1812
You really are a fan of Chinese Knock offs aren't you, that's not even a question.

Single RFID, who really cares. Car crosses the line, system picks it up as unidentified, you cross again. End of story unless you change PT's in that class, at that track. Until then, the PT is in the system. I've got 4 PT's all with different numbers, NEVER had it be an issue..if it is write em' down! MyLaps will clone PT numbers by the way.

MyLaps being squashed? HOUSE PT's? are you serious? You can't be serious.

Anybody know the last production date of AMB house transponders? Other than on a hope and prayer that either you or someone else is willing to change the batteries in those things they're a dinosaur. I think one of my local tracks has 3 and only 2 still work consistently. Tracks that still rely on those heavily are barely a blip on the radar, and honestly are even a topic of discussion really. I don't see MRT offering a house PT to track owners, why not??

The opportunity for another company to make a comparable SYSTEM has been there for DECADES and nobody has done it, end of story. The only thing anyone (MRT) has done is continually COPY the most profitable part of that system, the PT. Why because they know that to create a similar yet uniquely their own system wouldn't be profitable.

Why hasn't MRT, or anyone else, developed a complete system that works with both their own PT as well as all of MyLaps PT's and offer both the decoder and PT's for half the cost of a MyLaps system, why?
What's the problem?
We use another system from eBay, which works well with MRT, and my old AMB DP transponder. On the track, we use the same burred Mylaps loop.
Guy from vostokelectronics tell, that their systems works with MRT, AMB, My Laps transponders except newest rc4 transponders.
Now ordered and waiting transponders from this guy.
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