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Old 12-06-2010, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by maxepower
If that's the price, I think the turn out for TCS Series will be real thin, unless Santa is real nice this year. But, based on todays economy, I doubt it!
If I had to guess what is going to be used this year I would lean towards a list of Spec Systems. Novak,Speedpassion, Lrp spec system. As long as they are all ROAR approved Spec. systems they will be allowed. As for Tekin, I think they screwed the pooch when they had the Version 208 that was supposed to be non- adjustable when it wasn't, so even though the 212 is ROAR legal I don't think it will be on the list for TCS.
I just don't think there is enough time to distribute the Tamiya systems and allow time for testing and set-up!
Just my 2$
Hey Kevin,
Are you doing the Toys for Tots race this year? I think me and Tim are doing it again this year.
My thoughts exactly, & I include myself among those who will not be participating in a TCS event this coming season if the rules stay the way they are. I simply cannot justify spending that kind of money for gear that I would only be able to make use of once or twice per year, when there's too many good ESC's & motors that can work just as evenly with the right rules(& ROAR already got that done with the banning of boost & the spec profiles that make it obvious to anyone glancing at a car that a ESC is legal). They're simply asking too much of me, so until we see some rules that make more sense, I'm officially done...
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I'd be wiIIing to bet Novak couId come up with a TCS combo with a different turn motor for the same price as:

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...6.0.0.0?pp=10&

ViabIe product with an estabIished record and a resaIe market!
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:49 PM
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F104 - 21.5 no boost

FF03 - 17.5 no boost

GT2 - 17.5 no boost

GT3 (I mean GT1) - 10.5 no boost

Any combo.

Scrutinize the winners closely.

Tamiya couldn't have it any easier and racers would be extremely grateful.

All rulings by Tamiya are final.

Not much work at all.

I'm not buying new sh!t either.

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Old 12-06-2010, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA
F104 - 21.5 no boost

FF03 - 17.5 no boost

GT2 - 17.5 no boost

GT3 - 10.5 no boost

Any combo.

Scrutinize the winners closely.

Tamiya couldn't have it any easier and racers would be extremely grateful.

All rulings by Tamiya are final.

Not much work at all.

I'm not buying new sh!t either.
Gt3 with a 10.5? Did you mean GT1?
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:31 PM
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I humbly submit a list of escs that so far have proven very equal...


Approved ESCs:
Novak-
GTB series part numbers:1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers:1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712
XBR (DISCONTINUED) part number:1720

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280


The GTB2 and LRP SPX Zero could probably be added to the list as well...
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA
GT3 - 10.5 no boost
GT3 sounds like fun
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Originally Posted by robk
Gt3 with a 10.5? Did you mean GT1?
Of course!

(can I change that now?)

Not a Tamiya TC guy, can you tell?
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:21 PM
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From a new racer's perspective:

Bummer about the prices, no one believed me at Tamiya in Aliso when I was predicting ~$250 pricing.

I will say it's hard to beat the spec setup I've been running the past month at Tamiya in my 416we...Novak Havoc Pro + 21.5 Ballistic Brushless motor setup, all for $115. This setup is used to race local club races at WCRC, Cal Raceway, etc...

Regardless, where's this leave a new racer? Silver Can? I don't know any secrets for silver can so that's out...and any class using brushless is priced out of range for 3 race uses per year.

I honestly don't understand the logic, and I want to participate.



Originally Posted by Kevin CBR
Motor only:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANGX&P=7
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANGZ&P=7
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANHA&P=7

Compared to:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVDA6&P=ML

SEC only:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANGU&P=7

Compared to:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVDG4&P=ML
That is ROAR legal and can be used for turbo or non-turbo and competitive at any race at any track.

Complete system:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANGV&P=7
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXANGW&P=7

Which is higher than this:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXULV8&P=ML

.....that you can return to the manufacture for repairs or warranty if any problems and get tech help from. Hopefully the Tamiya system will have "comparable" service too.
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Originally Posted by Tron
I honestly don't understand the logic, and I want to participate.
Take a number and wait for it to be called.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:30 AM
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Tamiya brushless systems = disappointing
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lbckevin
Tamiya brushless systems = disappointing
I'm willing to give the Tamiya system a try, but they better get it figured out fast, there isnt much time.
The only argument I have is , how can you judge something that isnt even out yet?
Nobody knows how FMW is going to price the system for the racers, so there might be all this worry about nothing
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:20 AM
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Bring back GT3 for those who want to run TC but can't or won't flip the bill for a new brushes system. Pleeeeeeeease!
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How about an update on the brushless testing.

With a little over a month before the first race, couldn't we at least get a hint of the proceedings?

I need to know what to put on my list for Christmas.

As I stated before. Once the decision is finalized, will there be enough supply for the demand.

One thought is if we just adapt the VTA rules, seems to be working pretty well for that class. Limited speed control, spec motor.

The clock is ticking.
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzbob
My thoughts exactly, & I include myself among those who will not be participating in a TCS event this coming season if the rules stay the way they are. I simply cannot justify spending that kind of money for gear that I would only be able to make use of once or twice per year, when there's too many good ESC's & motors that can work just as evenly with the right rules(& ROAR already got that done with the banning of boost & the spec profiles that make it obvious to anyone glancing at a car that a ESC is legal). They're simply asking too much of me, so until we see some rules that make more sense, I'm officially done...
+1

Kind of breaks my heart.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:16 AM
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Tamiya should use the USVTA rules for ESC's. That would invite much more participation to the TCS especially with the number of people running TA05's in VTA.

Mini - leave silver can
F1 rubber - leave silver can
F1 Foam - leave silver can
FF03 - USVTA spec speedo with 21.5
GT2 - USVTA spec speedo with 17.5/Open speedo with 21.5
GT1 - Open speedo with 17.5

What ever is going to be done needs to happen soon.

If they want any significant participation this year in this economy they should consider the above, I don't think there will be much interest if a 1 series type system is the choice.
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