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Old 09-01-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RCGaryK
This is the best I can muster Rob and keep it polite If you don't think F1 Rubber is a "Man's Class" you've clearly either never tried it or never been successful at it...

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Old 09-01-2009, 10:01 AM
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I will take a side... get rid of expensive foams, get rid of that supposed cheap to run silver can and lets start running 21.5 brushless with rubber tires that easily last 3 times as long as foams...
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lightfoot
I will take a side... get rid of expensive foams, get rid of that supposed cheap to run silver can and lets start running 21.5 brushless with rubber tires that easily last 3 times as long as foams...
you will get no arguments from me
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:14 AM
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At the Trackside regional race the F1's were smoking the GT1 car , with a 13,500 limit silver can on foams. If you change to rubber tire ,I think it would be overkill for a $300 esc/motor brushless combo . Will a brushless motor fit in the pod of the new F104?????
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray k
At the Trackside regional race the F1's were smoking the GT1 car , with a 13,500 limit silver can on foams. If you change to rubber tire ,I think it would be overkill for a $300 esc/motor brushless combo . Will a brushless motor fit in the pod of the new F104?????
the answer to your question is no and yes. Yes, you can squeeze it under the body (a Tekin probably fit best) and no in the sense that your F104 would drive extremely funky with 80 grams of weight on the ESC side (ESC + wire + all the stuff that goes with the brushless (cap, fan, heatsink...etc.) and a less than 12 gram receiver on the other side. Good luck trying to balance that thing

I do like the idea of rubber tires.

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Old 09-01-2009, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by teamstrc
the answer to your question is no and yes. Yes, you can squeeze it under the body (a Tekin probably fit best) and no in the sense that your F104 would drive extremely funky with 80 grams of weight on the ESC side (ESC + wire + all the stuff that goes with the brushless (cap, fan, heatsink...etc.) and a less than 12 gram receiver on the other side. Good luck trying to balance that thing

I do like the idea of rubber tires.

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For what its worth, for a car as light as the 104, and the fact that its direct drive, and add the fact that gearing it to the moon really doesnt give you an advantage, do you really need the biggest baddest brushless controller and fans and heatsinks?
add to that that you are only powering a 21.5
i think brushless is doable if things are kept in perspective.
As usual just my $.25
I would prefer rubber
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:59 PM
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I thought the spec 32T motor was perfect for F1.
Good power to match the handling, zero tweaking involved and all 4 of mine were practically identical in performance. Plus, they are fairly inexpensive and they last forever.
Ditch silver can and ditch brushless and stick with this motor for F1.
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Originally Posted by linger
...all 4 of mine...
Four?!?! Baller!
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How does the 32T compare with a silver can?
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Originally Posted by stitchy
How does the 32T compare with a silver can?
At 5.0V you get about 10,000rpm vs a 540J @11-11500Rpm. The 32T formula motor is real bullet proof. In testing we overgeared and got it to 225 and it still ran great afterwards. The 32T has more torque and seems to get faster over time. The brushes are real hard and last a long time. The other advantage over the 540J is that you can change the brushes and springs if you wanted to and possiblly improve the performance. Not that we could do it for the nats. As far as lap times we were close to the regional times during the race. I'd say not bad and you get good bang for the buck.
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Foam tire=real men. Deal with it
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Originally Posted by 2CARTEAM
At 5.0V you get about 10,000rpm vs a 540J @11-11500Rpm. The 32T formula motor is real bullet proof. In testing we overgeared and got it to 225 and it still ran great afterwards. The 32T has more torque and seems to get faster over time. The brushes are real hard and last a long time. The other advantage over the 540J is that you can change the brushes and springs if you wanted to and possiblly improve the performance. Not that we could do it for the nats. As far as lap times we were close to the regional times during the race. I'd say not bad and you get good bang for the buck.
Very interesting. Thanks for the reply!
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Well...we just got back a little while ago...3400 miles in 7 days!! That was some driving!!

I would like to thank all the Tamiya Crew..the race this weekend was awesome...better than I could have expected. Even though I didn't get my car on pace in time to make the show, I still had an insane time. The track, the racers, the crew...all made it worth while for sure! Even the 110 degree weather didn't dampen the experience. I will be back next year...and I will make the show!!

It was great seeing some of my racer buds...and meeting new ones. Ray and Doc...you gotta make Omaha in January...you will love that place!

Congrats to all the winners...the racing was phenominal! Until next year...
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