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Old 07-17-2009, 12:01 PM
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ill weigh my TB-03 in full race trim and see what it weighs in at.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:35 PM
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I was planning on running GT-3 at the nats, but thought that with all the weight I have to add to get the car to a lumbering 1400g I might just stick with Mini and get rid of the 100+ grams I added to meet the 1300g limit for the regional and run near the 1200g limit for the nats.
I would still encourage you to try GT3. Why? Because it's a frigging blast! At the June SoCal race I ran my old, beloved TA05R in GT3 (sometimes the classics are still the best) and before adding any weight weighed it at race-ready status with body at 1280 g. To get to the 1500 g we had to run, I A) put almost all the steel screws back in the body, except for the ones up high like on the shock towers, and B) put the steel turbuckles back on. This got the weight up to almost 1400. So when I added lead ballast, I only had to put it in around the battery and in the center of the chassis near the driveline to get to 1500. So, for a 1400 g weight I'd say put the screws back in (relocating all the bottom-of-the-chassis screws in steel adds weight right where you want it for low CG), leave your good aluminum or ti turnbuckles, and then ballast. If you add enough ballast, then you can run a lightweight body too.
I think that in June the biggest issue we noticed with the 8-minute main in GT3 was motor fade after about 6 min, clearly due to weight. Tire wear was not at all bad, despite the very hot track. I ran a Orion 3800 Lipo and still had plenty of battery left at the end.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Slick
I would still encourage you to try GT3. Why? Because it's a frigging blast! At the June SoCal race I ran my old, beloved TA05R in GT3 (sometimes the classics are still the best) ...
"sometimes the classics are still the best"

Had to laugh, I'm with ya. I'd be running my box stock TT-01 (friction shocks, stock speedo, plastic driveshaft, fixed toe/camber, only changing the spur gear, bearings and tires to keep up with the class). Ran it last year and finished mid-B of a C-main field. Mini's and F1 are fun but sometimes I miss 4wd sedans, and always fun to see how good I can do with a box stock $85 car against all the bling.

We'll see, haven't decided which car to drive at the nats.
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:00 PM
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F1 handout 32T motor questions
  • Is this going to slow down the F1 class?
  • How does it compare to a silver can in regards to torque and RPM?
  • Gearing recommendations?
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 240Z
F1 handout 32T motor questions
  • Is this going to slow down the F1 class?
  • How does it compare to a silver can in regards to torque and RPM?
  • Gearing recommendations?
These will be the big red herring when we all get our motors on Sat. morning.

Do you think we can get our motors Thursday or Friday?

Slowwer F-1 will result in closser F-1 and a whole lot of FUN!!! (imho) CAIN"T WAIT!!!! lol
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamB&B
The 1350 g min weight just reinforces this advantage and to the experienced racers luckily to have one.
Although one thing you and other people might overlooked is the weight of the handout Lipo.

It might be easier than you think to get the car underweight.

The lipo's I run are under 3800 range and to get to 1500 regionally I did have to add 150 grams and 120 grams to both of my TA05s. I am running steel screws, heavier servos and did not much to lighten the cars. Making the car hit the under 1350 would not take much effort or cost.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 240Z
F1 handout 32T motor questions
  • Is this going to slow down the F1 class?
  • How does it compare to a silver can in regards to torque and RPM?
  • Gearing recommendations?
Fred ran the F104 last Saturday using the 32 turn motor with the stock gearing. It had good speed keeping up with the silver can F1's just fine.
I believe the motor was just as fast as the silver can's is because it has something like 24 degrees advanced timing in it. By the way the F104 looked very good at the Tamiya track, after a few adjustments the car looked dialed!
Just my 2$
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamB&B
Ummmmm. GT1 1350 grams.

Last year I took on your challenge to get a GT1 car down to 1400 g. Achievable, but was expensive.

With everything being equal, the current NA rules favor that the TRF414 will be the car to beat. ... a balanced 50g advantage. This explains why there was a lot of used TRF414 sales activity before and after last year's TCS Nats. The 1350 g min weight just reinforces this advantage and to the experienced racers luckily to have one.

Sorry, we are staying home this year.
I ran my 416 with Reedy 5000mah lipo In an RCGT race recently. That means 26mm HPI X-Patterns and the Tamiya RX-7 body with muffler, mirrors and wiper blades and still had to add 15g to make the 1400g weight. With a race body, 24mm tires and the 3400mah lipo, 1350g will be a breeze to make.
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Originally Posted by Kevin CBR
I ran my 416 with Reedy 5000mah lipo In an RCGT race recently. That means 26mm HPI X-Patterns and the Tamiya RX-7 body with muffler, mirrors and wiper blades and still had to add 15g to make the 1400g weight. With a race body, 24mm tires and the 3400mah lipo, 1350g will be a breeze to make.

I ran RCGT at Reedy with a 1350 weight limit. My 416 was at 1360g with steel screws and a big fantom 5000. And it was perfectly balanced. 1350 weight limit is just fine
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by linger
I ran RCGT at Reedy with a 1350 weight limit. My 416 was at 1360g with steel screws and a big fantom 5000. And it was perfectly balanced. 1350 weight limit is just fine
I guess that myth's been...BUSTED!
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Old 07-19-2009, 09:30 AM
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Hey So Cal locals, Tamiya dudes,
Gotta get to West Coast RC Raceway for their asphalt track!
It's about as big as Tamiya, is indoors and traction is $$$$$$$$.

F1s run fast here.
Bring em down and run em, get the class built up again.
Danny (owner) is gettin parts in any day and it's gonna be a blast.

Just a heads up, check out their thread.
Pictures will blow you away and yep the place is huge, bigger than the pictures can show.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/track-lo...e-so-cali.html
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA
Hey So Cal locals, Tamiya dudes,
Gotta get to West Coast RC Raceway for their asphalt track!
It's about as big as Tamiya, is indoors and traction is $$$$$$$$.

F1s run fast here.
Bring em down and run em, get the class built up again.
Danny (owner) is gettin parts in any day and it's gonna be a blast.

Just a heads up, check out their thread.
Pictures will blow you away and yep the place is huge, bigger than the pictures can show.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/track-lo...e-so-cali.html
Yeah... West Coast is sweet... track is maybe larger then Tamiya track, very smooth, high grip... perfect for F1 HINT HINT
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:24 AM
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For anyone who didnt hear Tamiya had the 6 hour Mini enduro on saturday and it was really cool. The top three teams had over 1,000 laps and there was some awesome racing motors blowing up screws disloding from cars tires falling off a broken diff dozens of blown tires it was very cool. In fact at what track would you find Bob Novak racing a mini cooper or better yet Barry Baker and our suprise guest driver for our team Dave Jun It was a really cool race, Gary Demory took some video taken by a camera mounted on a TT-01 so hope to see how that turned out. Kevin Nino and his team took home the gold
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Thumbs up Mini Enduro.

Yes.. Tons of fun in a small package. Congrats to the Winners and all competitors... Great showing.

Who would of thought a Mini could last soooo long non-stop?!?!
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
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Hello everyone,

I really hate opening a can of worms, especially on a forum, but sometimes you have to in order to get a more accurate pulse of what is going on.

During the Mini Enduro race, a few Mini racers came to me and asked why Mini isnít using the Orion 3400 battery. I stated we choose to use the same 2400 battery as last year due to the price point I was able to sell it at thanks to Orionís support. I figured price would be very important to all of you. In the end the battery worked out great and everyone was happy.

Well, a few of you have stated to me youíd be happy to pay more for the 3400 to get more punch out of your Miniís and to be able to use the 3400 in future races outside of TCS and for regional races.

My question to you all is, (Iím really afraid to ask) do most of you feel the same way? Do you guys really want the 3400?

Speak up or forever hold your peace.

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