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Old 01-04-2009, 07:04 PM
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Yes at Aliso and not sure where else if any
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:10 PM
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I suppose changing it from venue to venue would mean that the guys with the red/black lead motors will get their way and those of us without one will be left out to run in one of brushless classes (guess I'd better start hunting down a 'fast' silver can motor now..., or sell my F103) BTW, times with the red/black lead motors about equal a 17.5 brushless at our track.
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Originally Posted by BobbyS
I suppose changing it from venue to venue would mean that the guys with the red/black lead motors will get their way and those of us without one will be left out to run in one of brushless classes (guess I'd better start hunting down a 'fast' silver can motor now..., or sell my F103) BTW, times with the red/black lead motors about equal a 17.5 brushless at our track.

Not sure what motor you are talking about with the red/black leads on them, but the only silver can motor allowed is spelled out in the rules.

"The Tamiya 540-J motor (53689) is the spec silver can motor for the 2009 season in the Spec, GT-2, Mini and F1 classes."
Very specific especially since the numbers are on the can
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:13 PM
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I'm just finishing putting my IFS-R together with a Futaba S9551 servo and it appears that I'll have to cut the tub for servo saver clearance like they show in the manual. I feel that that's pretty bogus! Is there a servo that avoids this, or perhaps another servo saver? Or does everyone just trim the tub? Pics?
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:12 PM
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:17 PM
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I saw the new F103 bodies have arrived for TCS...

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....98nljf0dl11jc5
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin CBR
Probably to keep people from running some newer motors that have adjustable timing or some of the faster 17.5's that people are finding out about running the RCGT series.
yup.. renders 2 out of my 3 motors useless. and timmy has my novak 17.5

Originally Posted by reenmachine
But why two different motors, especially ones reputed to be noticeably different in performance? If you're going to create a spec class, make it spec and designate one motor. Maybe they're just hedging against a shortage.
oh yah.. btw the first batch of LRP X11 motors had adjustable timing. have fun teching that one.

Originally Posted by OSherman
I like the GT2 17.5 motor rules just the way they are. Two great motors, only difference (that i know of) is you have to gear them differently.
well you know how MY motors perform. im not too worried though. GT2 is gonna be a blast. i have a black ring novak 17.5 AND an adjustable timing ring LRP 17.5

Originally Posted by OSherman
just got my 'yellow ringed' NOVAK 17.5. Saw a whole lot of 'black ringed' NOVAK 7.5 on the shelf too..
yet another tech nightmare.. if i remember correctly that some of the other novak motors had a black timing ring and used stickers to identify the motor. remove the sticker.. wala.. you can mix and match motor parts and get a hybrid. if you update the rules... what happens to the people that own a black ring 17.5?
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:27 PM
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Man, is there any way to have a TCS race without motor controversy???
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Originally Posted by reenmachine
Man, is there any way to have a TCS race without motor controversy???
its not a controversy just plain fun to stir up the thread. i have 4 - 17.5 motors.. so which ever direction fred goes, im covered. (if you're curious, i traded all my 10.5 motors for 17.5 since ROAR made 10.5 as mod.)
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Originally Posted by reenmachine
I'm just finishing putting my IFS-R together with a Futaba S9551 servo and it appears that I'll have to cut the tub for servo saver clearance like they show in the manual. I feel that that's pretty bogus! Is there a servo that avoids this, or perhaps another servo saver? Or does everyone just trim the tub? Pics?
trim tub, just the way it is. ull be fine.

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Old 01-05-2009, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ultegrasti
trim tub, just the way it is. ull be fine.

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Old 01-05-2009, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lbckevin
I saw the new F103 bodies have arrived for TCS...

http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....98nljf0dl11jc5
Any AV regulars who would like to do a group purchase and combine shipping, send me a PM.
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Originally Posted by reenmachine
Man, is there any way to have a TCS race without motor controversy???
Only if you take the motors out and make the drivers push there cars around the track. But then again, you are bound to have people try to use non-Tamiya tape to tape ankles. Then you will have people wanting a limit on how many pairs of tennis shoes you can use in one weekend. There will always be someone trying to get an edge.

Bobby S - only Tamiya 540 motors I have seen with black / red wires are black can which are not legal for GT-3, mini or F103 at the regionals. Are you sure you are talking about a silver can 540 ?
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:38 AM
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RC Boy era (shinier can, 2 vents, different endbell) and early 2000's bulk Johnson (2 vent, similar can, different endbell) used as handouts at TCS nationals events for 2 or 3 years both used black and red leads. Neither is the same as the currently legal #53689 and should not be permitted in TCS competition. A knowledgable motor tech person should be able to spot them right away, although neither offers any inherent performance advantage, as any current motor can be made to go as fast as any of the other 2-vent 27 turn motors produced by Johnson in the past. 4-vent motors were balanced better, but that's the only real advantage they had over the 2-vents, which actually have superior magnets.

Just my $.02.
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Old 01-06-2009, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hebiki
yet another tech nightmare.. if i remember correctly that some of the other novak motors had a black timing ring and used stickers to identify the motor. remove the sticker.. wala.. you can mix and match motor parts and get a hybrid. if you update the rules... what happens to the people that own a black ring 17.5?
They say: Forget this, I'm not running this class due to the requirement to buy a one race $80 motor. I'm already borrowing a black ring 17.5 to run the class since I cannot run my current 17.5. If yellow ring is required, I guess its GT3 for me since I only need to spend $20 to get a motor.

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