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Old 12-31-2008, 11:21 PM
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hebiki
did anyone else notice this ruling for GT2?

"17.5 Brushless motors only! To keep the class as spec as possible this class is limited to Spec Novak 17.5 and Spec LRP 17.5 motors only."

http://www.tamiyausa.com/tcs/rules.php#gt2

Probably to keep people from running some newer motors that have adjustable timing or some of the faster 17.5's that people are finding out about running the RCGT series.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin CBR
Probably to keep people from running some newer motors that have adjustable timing or some of the faster 17.5's that people are finding out about running the RCGT series.
But why two different motors, especially ones reputed to be noticeably different in performance? If you're going to create a spec class, make it spec and designate one motor. Maybe they're just hedging against a shortage.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:50 AM
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Why the requirement for 24mm rims and tires? Tamiya still manufacture the 26mm parts, and several kits were sold with them. Why not allow them on kits that came with them?
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:02 AM
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I like the GT2 17.5 motor rules just the way they are. Two great motors, only difference (that i know of) is you have to gear them differently.
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Originally Posted by Hebiki
My point is.... along with many others have brushless motors that are 17.5 not made by Novak/LRP.... i myself have a "black timing" ring Novak 17.5.

just got my 'yellow ringed' NOVAK 17.5. Saw a whole lot of 'black ringed' NOVAK 7.5 on the shelf too..
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:36 PM
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How will the silver can motor classes be handled? Will there be handout motors? Will the bullet connectors be required?
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OSherman
just got my 'yellow ringed' NOVAK 17.5. Saw a whole lot of 'black ringed' NOVAK 7.5 on the shelf too..
I am under the assumption that the black timing ring novak spec 17.5 is legal for TCS GT-2. Can anyone tell me otherwise ?
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyS
How will the silver can motor classes be handled? Will there be handout motors? Will the bullet connectors be required?
This is just assumption but it sounds like there will be an RPM limit (very low ) and motors will be teched after the race for the top 3 finishers so I don't think the bullet connectors will be required. Its best to watch for the addendum to the rules when they come out. Fred might just tell us the RPM limits the day of the race which is good to.

By the way how much longer till the first race of 2009 Doc ?
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:46 AM
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I had two of my motors dyno'd yesterday, a Johnson and a Mabuchi (green/yellow leads), both read just under 14k rpm. I know several of the local guys have 'silver can' motors with the red and black leads (20T?) that will rev much higher (closer to 20k rpm.) Would be nice if Tamiya set the motor limit to what's available to most racers, the 14k rpm (not 16k or 18k, 'coz we all know that a silver can out of a kit will never make that kind of rpm.) IMO, the rpm limit should be set up now (take a look at the Asian finals thread if you need an explanation), and all silver can classes should be run with handout motors to make sure that everyone gets an even shake.

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Old 01-04-2009, 11:14 AM
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thats a good idea but then theres nothing stopping anyone from doctoring it up once they have it in their hot little hands
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Yeah, would still have to tech the top three...
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Originally Posted by BobbyS
I had two of my motors dyno'd yesterday, a Johnson and a Mabuchi (green/yellow leads), both read just under 14k rpm. I know several of the local guys have 'silver can' motors with the red and black leads (20T?) that will rev much higher (closer to 20k rpm.) Would be nice if Tamiya set the motor limit to what's available to most racers, the 14k rpm (not 16k or 18k, 'coz we all know that a silver can out of a kit will never make that kind of rpm.) IMO, the rpm limit should be set up now (take a look at the Asian finals thread if you need an explanation), and all silver can classes should be run with handout motors to make sure that everyone gets an even shake.
What are you testing your motor with and at what volts? It seems like the rpm limit will be around 13,000 rpm at 5 volts on a much more motor master that is of course speculation. Last year it was 15,000 at 5 volts. Also the mabuchi motors will not be allowed only the johnson motor which is on the website. I think the reason that its not set now is becuase he wants everyone to be on the same level and announcing it later will give less time for trickery and to be honest a motor rpm rule of 13,000 at 5 volts will leave no room to touch the motor at all IMO. The reason for no handout motors is excactly what was said in the post above any good motor man can tune a silver can in minutes and remember this is just a regional event and keeping the costs down are what is important to Tamiya thats why motors and batteries at Nationals are far less than that of what you would pay at your LHS or on the net. By the way Fred also mentioned that each reginal event may and may not have rpm limits and if they do they may not be the same as the previous event he said its up to the discretion of the Race Director. Hope this helps to answer any motor RPM, Rules, and Protocol questions.

In short its real easy: Set the rules for RPM limits and top 3 in qualifying in each class gets there motor yanked and tested if it goes over your DQ'd from that round if its under your all good. Mains the same way this way all the fast guys have to stay honest and all the slower guys pray that there motors goes over RPM limits

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Old 01-04-2009, 07:03 PM
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In 2008 were there any regionals where the rpm's of motors were tested? I did not participate in any of the races last year.
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