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Old 06-20-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Yep, that's pretty much it, Swifty. Except then I rub it all over my butt a lot, which of course makes it a lot faster.

But then, you knew that...
Is that why your motors go like stink????
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SirSwiftAlot
Is that all you do to your Red Dot motors Doc? Wow thats pretty good I thought you had all these tricks and secrets on how you make them so fast but from the sounds of it it looks pretty easy.
what do you knowyou better to ask grandpa
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Yep, that's pretty much it, Swifty. Except then I rub it all over my butt a lot, which of course makes it a lot faster.

But then, you knew that...
Wow and I thought that smell was NOS.
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Its not yet 100% confirmed but it sounds like mini and GT2 will run 2400 lipo's for nationals. Also the motor rules have taken a very interesting turn all I can say is that if what was discussed becomes the rules the lap times will be much slower. Which is good now we can actually find out who the drivers really are and it will promote an even playing field for everyone. Of course we will have to wait untill it hits the Tamiya website. And one more thing the reason why Doc calls them Red Dots is becuase he has a very unstable diet and when he wipes he cry's. By the way the track temp at Aliso was well over 140 today and the mini tires were goin like hot cakes at an IHOP festival. If anyone is interested in buying some old style 1st generation 60D's unmounted in the box call this number Area code (911)826-4922 and tell the operator that you need help and ask her to send you some tires.
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Originally Posted by SirSwiftAlot
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Also the motor rules have taken a very interesting turn all I can say is that if what was discussed becomes the rules the lap times will be much slower
my guess would be 21.5 BL... YAWWWWWN.........
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17.5 would make more sense...and if that's the case, that's really good. With the testing we did here locally the 17.5 in mini ran like a 21k ish silver can with really, really good torque. Lap times were almost identical to very good silver cans and the motors came off the track after 5 minutes at 85 deg!!!
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:19 PM
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Actually neither of those options.Its actually a cool thing IMO.We were racing today with the spec for Nats today locally and its will be interesting because the real drivers as Brandon has mention will be the fastest guys.Period.I have seen what people bring to nats.Some bring ponies,some bring driving and the fast guys bring both.Not anymore.
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:28 PM
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If the #'s I heard are correct, they will be what a decent silver can will do with no "tricks". We will have a lot of door handle to door handle racing. Frankly, I'll be suprized if the field in the A main is much more than 2 sec from first to tenth. I think it could be less. That is if the racing is clean.
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agreed!
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Wow...all you guys know...it must not be a secret then. Why not just post it. It would give others the chance to practice in Nats spec.
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It's already been specumalated upon in earlier posts, so it's no big secret that Fred is considering plain old 540J's with no tricks applied: no magnetic enhancement (cogging will give you away! ) and a 14K (or lower) max rpm at 5 volts. Old skool!

Depending on which 540J core they wind up using for a spec motor (hard brush or soft brush), getting into the mid to high 13K's is pretty easy to do using the break in techniques generally known by most racers. It definitely takes the motor out of the equation.

If they wind up using the brandy new Orion 2400 LiPo (it's a 2C like the 3200), you might have to add a little weight to your car if it's currently legal with a 3200. With that combo, the speeds will be very, very close and run time will not be a problem. Slow, but close- and hey, it's all relative. So practice making nice, clean runs and keeping your momentum up through the turns.
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Hmm I seem to remember a S2000 that was set up for that driving style.....

Good to hear the motor voodoo is being taken away. I have long supported Silvercan racing but what it has gotten to is just too much. Glad to hear Fred is taking steps to eliminate all of this. I also have heard rumors of the changes and if that is the truth then it will only be good for TCS.
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sheesh, read this thread for 1st time in a while and its still folks bickerin bout can speeds. please somethin new !!!!

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The thought was to also bring the min. weight for both GT2 & Mini down I overherard about 50-100 grams. To disagree a little with Doc the rules will state what the RPM limit is not how you get there unless posted otherwise. Again there is a whole new way of making your car faster with those type of motor limits with set up and equipment. The reason why we don't post the rules Core Creations is so that other people don't start practicing with the wrong specs we wait to hear it from Tamiya kinda like the horses mouth and not the donkey.
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