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Old 01-28-2020, 02:10 PM
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Honestly it’s pretty tough to do since there are so many variables. I think being strict on any driver that has any kind of sponsorship, like the rules say, not be eligible to race. So if you get stuff for free or get 20/30/50% off anyone’s products because of any kind of sponsorship then no go. I would say have a time frame that they are no longer sponsored...maybe someone that was sponsored within the last two years but is no longer sponsored in any way must race only GT1 or any other non trip class. Defining someone’s abilities gets difficult. Do you go by lap times - previous results - years racing? Someone that was awesome 5 years ago may not be so hot now. Or someone that sandbags can suddenly be fast...it’s a tough one.
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Will the tire and motor matrix be updated soon. Need to know what the GT1 and GT2 motors will be (13.5/17.5 or 17.5/21.5). Also need to know the tires for the GT classes and F1.
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Old 01-28-2020, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by f1larry View Post
Will the tire and motor matrix be updated soon. Need to know what the GT1 and GT2 motors will be (13.5/17.5 or 17.5/21.5). Also need to know the tires for the GT classes and F1.
All the 2020 rules are on the tamiya site https://www.tamiyausa.com/media/file...s-962-5ed1.pdf
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Old 01-28-2020, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by V8 Rumble View Post
All the 2020 rules are on the tamiya site https://www.tamiyausa.com/media/file...s-962-5ed1.pdf
the tire and motor matrix are blank for a couple of the events. Actually the venue, motor, and tire are blank in some spots.


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Here is a list of the schedule. It could be some od the venues have not committed to dates yet. 2020 TCS Race Schedule ? Tamiya America
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Originally Posted by V8 Rumble View Post
Here is a list of the schedule. It could be some od the venues have not committed to dates yet. 2020 TCS Race Schedule ? Tamiya America
Larry’s in Michigan is on the schedule, but not on the matrix grids. I know how to read/find the rules and schedules. I have been doing the TCS almost 20 years. I am just stating the pdf rules are missing some info.
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Originally Posted by f1larry View Post
Larry’s in Michigan is on the schedule, but not on the matrix grids. I know how to read/find the rules and schedules. I have been doing the TCS almost 20 years. I am just stating the pdf rules are missing some info.
Have you seen this happen in the past where the matrix grids have been empty on the current schedule/ rules?
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Originally Posted by V8 Rumble View Post
Have you seen this happen in the past where the matrix grids have been empty on the current schedule/ rules?
I have not. Usually if a place is not confirmed it is not on the schedule or the matrix. I have seen posts from Larry’s confirming that they are hosting a race March 1
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Originally Posted by Kevin CBR View Post
Now clearly define the criteria to determine the difference between an expert driver and a sportsman driver.
this idea is less than perfect, but any driver that placed 1st in GT2 in any TCS races in the prior years and any driver that placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd in GT1 any previous years.
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Old 01-29-2020, 07:51 PM
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since the first tcs race is on.Super Bowl weekend.its a shame they couldn't change it .till next weekend
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Originally Posted by GerryH View Post
this idea is less than perfect, but any driver that placed 1st in GT2 in any TCS races in the prior years and any driver that placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd in GT1 any previous years.
That’s where it gets tough...What if an inexperienced driver decides to run GT1 and there are only 3 entries. Boom...now he’s an expert.

I personally don’t have an issue with the best drivers driving both GT2 and GT1. Right now a novice that’s won moving up to GT2 should expect a tough move up. They may struggle at first but tough competition usually helps people get better. Then maybe in the 2nd year of GT2 they improve and make the A. That’s how this all works.
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I support Tamiya for getting as many Participants into the TCS program. This also contributes to getting more people to participate in our Hobby in General.


Maybe on the signup sheet, there should be a question...Have you ever been a Sponsored Driver in the past 4 years? Yes or No. If yes please specify.


This can let the Home Track know and determine if they should be in the GT1 Class or Euro Truck. All other classes are reserved for Non-Sponsored drivers(at least that's what I think the intention is)


If you receive anything from a Manufacturer at a Discount or Paid by a manufacturer to compete...you're sponsored.


I have been to many TCS races and in different tracks since the late 90's and just enjoy racing with friends. And I don't mind racing with sponsored drivers at TCS races or Club races in general...it just make me a better driver.
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Regarding the Revelation Race. Is the Spec tire the the sweep tire with the Reedy race 2017 on the rim?
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Also, can we now move the items around in the Pro Spec car to balance the weight in light of the Mini cars not having a problem anymore?
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Originally Posted by Core Creations View Post
That’s where it gets tough...What if an inexperienced driver decides to run GT1 and there are only 3 entries. Boom...now he’s an expert.

I personally don’t have an issue with the best drivers driving both GT2 and GT1. Right now a novice that’s won moving up to GT2 should expect a tough move up. They may struggle at first but tough competition usually helps people get better. Then maybe in the 2nd year of GT2 they improve and make the A. That’s how this all works.
Totally agree. Or, what about a person who wins a GT-2 race with only 3 or 4 entries because of luck / attrition that would then be lucky to make the B main in a 25+ car field at another track ? I always felt if I wanted to get better, racing against better drivers was part of the program. I applaud those who think the same.

The emphasis needs to be on getting more people to race in TCS period. After years of bemoaning how the TCS National Champions were just "the best Southern California TCS drivers" and not the best TCS drivers in the nation, TCS Nats get moved to Nebrasks and do all the Midwest and East Coast drivers pining about the Nats always being at the TCS track in Aliso show up ? Nope ! 6 cars competed in GT-1 and 5 cars competed in GT-2 at the 2019 Nats. 11 drivers competing for two of the three trip classes. Easily the lowest ever attended Nationals . Hopefully with TCS Nats again scheduled for the same track in 2020, the entries will be better.

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