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Old 09-26-2019, 12:25 PM
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It would be so easy to just adopt the current FT 21.5 that way mini, pro spec, f1, and gt2 can all use the same motor.
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
It would be so easy to just adopt the current FT 21.5 that way mini, pro spec, f1, and gt2 can all use the same motor.
Although with F1, since it is direct drive, might be squirrelly to drive with torque from a 21.5. Although that handicap would be the same for everyone and possibly a matter of torque control.

There was mention of lifting the 20t gear restriction with mini since the M07/M08 are adjustable. If true the M06 and below would become obselete for competitive racing. . .

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Old 10-10-2019, 03:59 PM
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F1 is a way better experience with 25.5. When some guys pitched 25.5 for F1 in general (non Tamiya), I was pretty ambivalent, but it turned out to improve racing greatly.

I would welcome a fixed timing motor, however.
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Old 10-10-2019, 05:00 PM
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I still want to try my F1 car with like.. a 10.5. But I also feel like it would need front brakes to really make use of it.
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Originally Posted by Nerobro
I still want to try my F1 car with like.. a 10.5. But I also feel like it would need front brakes to really make use of it.
1s 10.5...actually driveable. 1s cars are soft enough on the bottom to control, but they get up to speed.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by robk
1s 10.5...actually driveable. 1s cars are soft enough on the bottom to control, but they get up to speed.
Could be a great change for F1 at the next rule rotation.
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Ko
Could be a great change for F1 at the next rule rotation.
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Old 10-15-2019, 10:35 PM
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Quite frankly, I don't understand the point of 1s batteries and ESC's anymore. For brands to dedicate batteries and hardware(ESCs) to that platform is a waste of money on their part. Its a whole separate line of electronics and batteries that aren't really needed. With 2s shorty being the same footprint and 25.5 motors why even have 1s any more? Didnt that evolve from the lipo stick pack being too large for 1/12? People say "for mod 1/12." Then why don't they just use a motor that gives them the same power with 2s and ESC settings to soften the punch? It is 1 class, does it justify its own special batteries and electronics/charging modes? I think the 2s 1/12 stock classes they have in Japan are a great idea and make so much more sense. The faster 1s goes away the better for everyone lol. From the manufacturer to the end customer. Especially when it comes to resale value and wider market of used 2s equipment buyers.
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Old 11-12-2019, 01:27 PM
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anyone know time table on 2020 tcs schedule?
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RAL
Quite frankly, I don't understand the point of 1s batteries and ESC's anymore. For brands to dedicate batteries and hardware(ESCs) to that platform is a waste of money on their part. Its a whole separate line of electronics and batteries that aren't really needed. With 2s shorty being the same footprint and 25.5 motors why even have 1s any more? Didnt that evolve from the lipo stick pack being too large for 1/12? People say "for mod 1/12." Then why don't they just use a motor that gives them the same power with 2s and ESC settings to soften the punch? It is 1 class, does it justify its own special batteries and electronics/charging modes? I think the 2s 1/12 stock classes they have in Japan are a great idea and make so much more sense. The faster 1s goes away the better for everyone lol. From the manufacturer to the end customer. Especially when it comes to resale value and wider market of used 2s equipment buyers.

Completely wrong. Sorry.

1s racing, IE: 1/12th scale and WGTR.

25.5 2s, is a bit more power than 17.5 1s. 1/12 scale is still quite fast on 1s. Mod 12th scale is so fast on 2s that they'll wheelie down the straight and back flip.

1s packs charge more than twice as fast as my 2s packs. No balancing, and they don't get out of balance.

You can't run a 2s battery then soften the power with Esc settings. Well you can, but you can't police such a thing. 1s blinky is a rule made to limit racing speeds to something reasonably slower than mod. I've haven't been to a track EVER, with the capability to police Esc settings any further than blinky.

Charging mode is EXACTLY the same mode for my charger. You might want to upgrade chargers.

1s might not be a good fit for F1, but it's perfect for 12th scale and WGTR.

It's fine for the manufacturer. It's not hard to make an Esc run on lower voltage, and to add an internal booster to the Esc. There's 10 billion lines of electronics out there, and 1s type stuff has existed for decades now. It's no problem for me at all. I have one Esc for each electric car. I don't juggle Esc's between cars. If I ditch 12th scale, I'll sell them.

I don't think you have any experience with 1s racing. It's actually nicer. If we allowed F1 minimum weight down to 1025g, or maybe even just 1000g, and allowed 1s to run with 25.5 2s with a motor of similar power, I'd bet on single cell taking over. And that's why I think it should never be allowed. The F1 rules are fine as is.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:11 AM
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While practicing for TCS, my friend was running a HW 25.5 in his Mini and I was in FT 21.5. He was faster than me down the straight.. so I think the FT 21.5 on F1 will be just fine... itís a very mellow 21.5
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How did the worlds go? hoping everyone had a great time and did well
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Originally Posted by snopro31
How did the worlds go? hoping everyone had a great time and did well
We had a blast in Japan. It was an experience that we will never forget. A big thank you to Fred and Tamiya for giving us such an awesome and unforgetable experience. For GT1 and GT2, we finshed 7th in the A. I think mini was mid pack in the B. He had a horrble start in the B main.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:12 PM
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I've run a TT02R in GT Pro Spec in the past. With the TT02RR being released, what legal upgrades can I make to my "just plain 'R'"?
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Old 12-03-2019, 01:33 PM
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for those that attended tcs races was there any talk of changes to any rules? mostly motor rules
I plan to make at least 3 races this year and I want to run GT PRO SPEC, GT1 , and either Mini or GT2 , I just want to start to be prepaired as soon as I can as I am hoping some races will in jan-march
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