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Old 07-23-2014, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Giordano
Hey guys just want to double check about the official ruling for the "c" rating at he weekends TCS race at Jackson? Is there a limit or not? The rule book posted on the Tamiya Website does not indicate any limit? But I know John was discussing a limit with Fred. Just went back 5 pages and could not find an official post. Thanks and can't wait for Jackson.
i think he said 50c
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Giordano
Hey guys just want to double check about the official ruling for the "c" rating at he weekends TCS race at Jackson? Is there a limit or not? The rule book posted on the Tamiya Website does not indicate any limit? But I know John was discussing a limit with Fred. Just went back 5 pages and could not find an official post. Thanks and can't wait for Jackson.
I know of a few in Maryland that purchased the SMC 4300 50c battery in order to comply with the rule John set for Jackson TCS. Myself included.
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To my knowledge, the 50c rule is in effect for this race. John Brown would need to confirm...
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Originally Posted by oeoeo327
To my knowledge, the 50c rule is in effect for this race. John Brown would need to confirm...
I just called the shop trying to get ahold of him for some parts
and they are closed til Friday for vacation time (Some nerve!!!)
Anyway I remember seeing a previous message from him,
Im not sure if it was on here or the Mini Forum, but he was in contact with Fred and he said that if your running a M05V2 that you're limited to a 50c pack
I'll try and find that message that he posted
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Originally Posted by BrowniesHobbies
ATTENTION!!!

All M-chassis racers. If you we're lucky enough to get the new M05 Ver 2 you WILL be able to run it at our July 27th race but will be restricted to a maximum of 50c batteries. I spoke with Fred at Tamiya and to keep the field even he agreed with this restriction.
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Its from Page 1267 dated July 9th
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There was another post after that one asking to "hear from those who were actually going to attend the event" as if the decision was still under consideration. That's the way I interpreted it anyhow...

I'm not attending but I have been reading and following the posts and thought it was still up for discussion (not official yet)
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Old 07-23-2014, 04:52 PM
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Not be a tool, but I will. In the beginning I applauded John for trying to keep the cost down for mini racing by limiting the battery pack to 50c but I find it difficult to digest that this is limited to the m05v2 and not the m06? In a rare occurrence if an m06 wins the TCS Jackson race with a 100c battery pack you know it will lead to controversy.

The full book does not limit posted to the Tamiya site does not talk about a "c" rating. So it's either all or nothing. I know a few guys who have raced their m06's at the earlier TCS races using 100c packs and they passed through tech.

Personally, it makes no difference as I've had to ask somoene to purchase a 50c pack for me. It would have been nice to use the an old 4300 mah 90c shorty pack I had in my offload buggy which cost $65. My m03 is still using a two year old 30c pack. I hope John will have a few 50c packs for sale at the track for those traveling and not familiar with this ruling.

It will be interesting to see if the m05v2 hype is really worth it. My money is on an m03!
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Originally Posted by OSherman
There was another post after that one asking to "hear from those who were actually going to attend the event" as if the decision was still under consideration. That's the way I interpreted it anyhow...

I'm not attending but I have been reading and following the posts and thought it was still up for discussion (not official yet)
still have time. You and Socal Tamiya friends. Tickets LOL
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Hello everyone,

I have updated the TCS 2014 Final Manual.

The updates include:
A. The spec tire sauce that we will be using for GT-1, GT-2 and M-Chassis.

B. Instead of using one round of the "5-lap non-consecutive average lap time" I will be using THREE of your best rounds using the "5-lap average system". By using THREE rounds it will reward consistency. So those of you that can pull off a "hero" round will now have to prove yourselves more than once. =)

I have also heard the "voices" in my head regarding the Mini tires and the inserts not being glued. I am looking at an alternative to ease everyone's worry and dismay.

Thank you all for your feedback.
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I've actually promised myself that I would attend a TCS event at sometime other than the Aliso and/or Chino locations. Unfortunately this year is not a good year to do so. I'm lucky to be able to attend this years Nats.
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Originally Posted by OSherman
I've actually promised myself that I would attend a TCS event at sometime other than the Aliso and/or Chino locations. Unfortunately this year is not a good year to do so. I'm lucky to be able to attend this years Nats.
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Originally Posted by Carl Giordano
Not be a tool, but I will. In the beginning I applauded John for trying to keep the cost down for mini racing by limiting the battery pack to 50c but I find it difficult to digest that this is limited to the m05v2 and not the m06? In a rare occurrence if an m06 wins the TCS Jackson race with a 100c battery pack you know it will lead to controversy.

The full book does not limit posted to the Tamiya site does not talk about a "c" rating. So it's either all or nothing. I know a few guys who have raced their m06's at the earlier TCS races using 100c packs and they passed through tech.

Personally, it makes no difference as I've had to ask somoene to purchase a 50c pack for me. It would have been nice to use the an old 4300 mah 90c shorty pack I had in my offload buggy which cost $65. My m03 is still using a two year old 30c pack. I hope John will have a few 50c packs for sale at the track for those traveling and not familiar with this ruling.

It will be interesting to see if the m05v2 hype is really worth it. My money is on an m03!
The problem isn't the rules, the problem is the people trying to get around the rules. Every rule ever written was to stop people from doing something they weren't supposed to do in the first place.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Giordano
My m03 is still using a two year old 30c pack. I hope John will have a few 50c packs for sale at the track for those traveling and not familiar with this ruling.

It will be interesting to see if the m05v2 hype is really worth it. My money is on an m03!
I am with you on the car of choice. I bought the v2 in preparation for the next TCS season after seeing original comments about the m03 potentially not being legal.

As far as the batteries go I cycled the SMC 4300 50c and my 3 year old Orion 4000 30c. The 3 year old Orion battery showed better numbers except runtime. The SMC had about 15 more seconds run time is all. How they compare on the track, I can't say for sure. We will see this weekend. I don't think it will matter in the Mini anyhow based on the low load the car/21.5 combo it pulls.
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In the spirit of TCS, let's just go out and have fun racing.

And if you need a batt, silver can, Tekin FX, or 21.5…I have extras. Come see me at the Jackson race. They're FREE.
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And for those of age, today it's National Tequila Day. Proper prep for a weekend of racing.
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