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Old 12-13-2013, 11:23 AM
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Hi guys,

Come the TCS Finals the M-chassis class will have a "Spec" brushless motor to be used at the Final event. It will be supplied by a known and long established brand.
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Good move, Fred. Keep it spec and the class will grow!
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If this were a readily available motor, it would nice to put it into the rules so after finals that would be the spec motor at regional races?or maybe still for 2014 races??
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Originally Posted by FMW
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Come the TCS Finals the M-chassis class will have a "Spec" brushless motor to be used at the Final event. It will be supplied by a known and long established brand.
What will be the motor they will be running in Japan at the world TCS finals in 2014? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by FMW
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Come the TCS Finals the M-chassis class will have a "Spec" brushless motor to be used at the Final event. It will be supplied by a known and long established brand.
This is great news in the long term and assume the beyond the Finals Mini will require the spec system?

Well if that's the case why not hold off the implementation of the 21.5 brushless until the spec system is ready so were not faced with double the motor and speedo purchase when TCS racing starts in January?

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How about this...is the speedo currently available to purchase ? May not have Tamiya branding but at least we can start the season with a speedo that will be similar to what we need to run down the road.
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I did some testing last night at TQ (a medium-size carpet track in LA). I found the silver can and the TCS 21.5 to give similar lap times. The 21.5 was a tenth faster but the track was changing all the time so I don't have any confidence in that tenth; call them equal. The 21.5 drove pretty much the same as the silver can, quite unlike the way the 17.5 drove when I ran it at TQ two years ago.

This was just the first 21.5 I tried (the one I happen to own) so there is surely something better out there, but I think the fears some people have that the 21.5 must be too slow and will make Mini boring are unfounded.

On the other hand, I think the other fear that some people have is well founded: That we are about to experience an "arms race" as people figure out how to squeeze the last little bit out of the 21.5 and manufacturers release new products to help people go faster.

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As long as the rules stay the same for a year or so, it will work itself out and will at least be fair to all, cost aside of course. The costant changing of rules, spec tires and the lot has more to do with few competitors. Mini was the one class you could run the same car year after year with minimal investment, but that seems to have changed, at least for this year.

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Like Erik said.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:49 AM
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkBrown
On the other hand, I think the other fear that some people have is well founded: That we are about to experience an "arms race" as people figure out how to squeeze the last little bit out of the 21.5 and manufacturers release new products to help people go faster.
Bah. How's that any different to all the lubing/tweaking/voodoo that people did to silver can motors? RPM limit or not, you still had plenty of people getting them as close to the limit as they could.

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Can't wait!

I like the new rules! It's only a matter of time before Tamiya release their own brushless motor for spec racing and this is just a logical thoroughly considered stop gap.
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ROAR approved on right track. Should be any old ROAR 17.5. Buy 'em used never kill them. Now you guys are going to start burning up 21.5 (just like silver can) and that WILL add back the motor expense. Have fun!

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Originally Posted by Racing4Evo
Can't wait!

I like the new rules! It's only a matter of time before Tamiya release their own brushless motor for spec racing and this is just a logical thoroughly considered stop gap.
Well in the true spirit of the TCS shouldn't have Tamiya released this new
Brushless Motor and ESC combo PRIOR to making the rule change?
One major factor Im afraid of is that after this is all said and done
and Tamiya does release them, I'll be forced to purchase them in order
for us to race Mini in the TCS regionals!
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Originally Posted by SMcD
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Is that Plain or with Butter and Salt???
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Just make it like the grand touring class in Vegas....the Tekin Spec esc and gen 2 motor. But if it's going to spec for regional races next year it needs to be announced now so people don't have to spend for a new system this year and again next year. I'll bite the bullet this year as my minis electronics have been constant for several years now, but no way I'm dropping another $200 in a year for another system.

I'll be the first to admit I've got a chunk of money in the mini, but electronics has always been the upside as a $40 used novak and a $15 silver can made up the difference. The idea of a $5-600 mini with electronics is ummmmm...pretty silly.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:59 AM
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Are they going to run brushless in Japan?
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