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Old 01-17-2011, 12:40 PM
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Thanks Tamiya, Steve Wang and Speedtech for a fun weekend.

I love the 5lap qualify format. Most people treats the qualify like they were racing in the main. blocking and door banging ..... the new format gives the quicker cars a break....
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by over gear
Thanks Tamiya, Steve Wang and Speedtech for a fun weekend.

I love the 5lap qualify format. Most people treats the qualify like they were racing in the main. blocking and door banging ..... the new format gives the quicker cars a break....
agree!
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OSherman

Serpent Gordo. That session we had in the mains will go down in my handfull of most memorable ones.. just wish we could have taken it to timmy
The last 3 laps of that race was worth the price of admission many times over. A true display of talent, sportsmanship and rivalry. An RC moment that I wish I could frame and put on the wall....
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Originally Posted by 240Z
The last 3 laps of that race was worth the price of admission many times over. A true display of talent, sportsmanship and rivalry. An RC moment that I wish I could frame and put on the wall....
wish I could have seen it, I was on the track with them (several spots back) it sounded fantastic!
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It was not clear to me on the flyer I picked up at the hobby store but was the TCS race on Saturday or Sunday or both days?
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Originally Posted by Buzzerbro
It was not clear to me on the flyer I picked up at the hobby store but was the TCS race on Saturday or Sunday or both days?
regional races are on sundays, with controlled practice on saturday, nationals are sat. and sun.
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Originally Posted by teamstrc
But seriously I think there should be a +/- buffer in there, so lets say anything in the 17,500 should be legal (like 17,560 or 17,520, as long as it starts with a "17,5**)...
Tolerances like this never work in racing, as the upper tolerance limit becomes the de facto nominal. Look at ROAR's old lipo battery voltage limit of "8.40V +/- .04V" -- everyone read that as "8.44V", manufacturers changed their charger firmware to charge to 8.44V, etc. ROAR had to pull back and change the limit to 8.40V period.

People just don't seem to be able to understand the concept of a limit. If you have to think this way, then the limit is 17,400rpm, and 17,4** is OK.
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Originally Posted by reenmachine
Tolerances like this never work in racing, as the upper tolerance limit becomes the de facto nominal. Look at ROAR's old lipo battery voltage limit of "8.40V +/- .04V" -- everyone read that as "8.44V", manufacturers changed their charger firmware to charge to 8.44V, etc. ROAR had to pull back and change the limit to 8.40V period.

People just don't seem to be able to understand the concept of a limit. If you have to think this way, then the limit is 17,400rpm, and 17,4** is OK.
Well put!
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Guys im selling my Futaba 3pk, anyone interested let me know.
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Im sorry wrong thread
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mini m03 rig has to go.

m03, novak gts, bb servo, numerous rims/tires (As, old As, Ss, Ms etc), all hopups that matter. LWB and SWB bodies and chassis parts. extra trees, 2 sets of super minis, universals, full updated front steering assembly (servo saver + horn, ti links, ally knuckles etc), orion new gen stick lipo. too much more to list. pics on request. want this to go to a tcs racer.

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Old 01-17-2011, 08:33 PM
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Well, it was a great weekend for racing. I am with OSherman about not being sure yet about the 5lap qualy. Now coming from someone who needs to become more consistent, I think this approach can pit a slower driver into a higher qualification if the slower drive has a few fluke laps. In my case, I have had fluke laps, but I did run really clean and consistent. I did see others that got a really bad start, and then due to the 5-lap system, they had a really good end result. So, I guess that just means I need to rethink the qualification strategy, and of course racing is 50% luck, 50% skill, and 50% stratgy (using Yogi Barra math).

BWT, I think the Volvo can be a good body to run in FF03 after all.

See ya on the track. EBR
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anyone have any tips for the M06Pro in general?

i would assume you would want to build the diff as 'free flowing and smooth' as possible for RWD.. unlike the thick-packed slow-rotating diffs some assemble for the M03 and M05 FWD.
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Originally Posted by EB Racer
I am with OSherman about not being sure yet about the 5lap qualy. Now coming from someone who needs to become more consistent, I think this approach can pit a slower driver into a higher qualification if the slower drive has a few fluke laps. In my case, I have had fluke laps, but I did run really clean and consistent. I did see others that got a really bad start, and then due to the 5-lap system, they had a really good end result. So, I guess that just means I need to rethink the qualification strategy, and of course racing is 50% luck, 50% skill, and 50% stratgy (using Yogi Barra math).
The only place I have seen fast lap qualifying before is in the UF1 format used by the F1 group here in So. Cal. As the format was developed, a couple of different options were tried. For the series currently running, the qualifier is only 2 minutes long and the grid of the first main is determined by your single fastest lap. Typically, only 5 cars qualify at a time. The general thought is to save the equipment for racing. Get the qualifying over with and get on to the racing. After all, qualifying It is only used to determine who is 5 feet ahead of the next guy on the grid of the first heat. You can always improve your grid position by finishing higher in the next main (3 mains are run on a race day).

I noticed two problems with the TCS format as it was run on Sunday.
1) Too many drivers were on the track at a time. Drivers tended to treat it like a race and were banging around and not being very nice to one another by allowing faster cars to pass. I saw the smarter drivers compensating by hanging back once in a while to get in a good lap on a clear track. This was difficult to do with so many cars and with a variance in driver skills in the first round. Disparity between driver skill was sorted out in the second qualifier and helped out a lot.
2) Announcing in the qualifiers emphasized the running position rather than the lap times. This may have enticed some to make every lap count where the reality was, you only needed to be in top form for 5 laps.

Did it work for TCS? Yes.

Did it make much of a difference in the end? I don't think so. I would bet the podium winners would have made it to that spot even if they would have had to start from the back of the grid.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:09 PM
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Great video Rod...

Any more videos....Love to see the GT1, F1, and GT2 mains.
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