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Old 12-20-2023, 09:32 AM
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I've been looking for some property to build a local track. There's nothing much for on road, so that's where I wanted to start. Population density is good with decent income Yada Yada.

I'm going to look at a property in a few days and will start running numbers ect after that, but I wanted to ask -

What would you look for in a brand new track?

What wouldn't you want in a track?

Don't worry about the business side, I'd like to know what a potential user would want.
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Old 12-20-2023, 09:36 AM
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Property big enough for parking, pitting, and a decent size track with a hobby shop, on premise, that stocks enough parts to cover at least 5 of the top brands. Also, on premise, a taco truck and a burger truck.

Ideally, you would want to have it near a high school or area that is heavily traveled so people can see the cars, on the track, as they are passing. This will bring more curiosity and attention to the hobby. Easy access to the track is also a great idea and have it located within 20-30 miles of the bigger cities.
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Old 12-20-2023, 10:17 AM
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im not a fan of dense crowds so id like plenty of pit space and a large drivers stand. i don't want to be rubbing elbows the entire time im there. wider walkways between pit tables and the track so you have room to move and stand around to watch. that mainly applies to indoor facilities. with outdoor facilities noise and smell. contending with the noise and smell of a bunch of people running generators sucks. so if you're outdoors, supply the power and keep the generator away from the people.
if you're supplying the power, plenty of outlets in the pit spaces. you can never have enough of those.
consistently and punctuality. if you're going to run different classes on different weeks, be consistent about it. don't run it one week, not run it for 3 weeks and then out of the blue run it again. have designated days. designate said class to run second and fourth Friday nights, and then stick to that. its good to know what you're walking into and it gives you time to prep. and punctuality, if you say racing starts at 7pm, racing should start at 7pm. not quarter to 8. kind of have a window you're tying to have the program start and finish in. it's a buzzkill when the night drags on and you don't leave until 1:30am.
loading and unloading zone near an entrance so you don't have to make 10 trips through the parking lot or down the street to your car to get everything.
onsite hobby shop. because the one part you don't have on you is the one you're going to break
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Old 12-20-2023, 01:50 PM
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Great info. Please keep it coming.

There's actually 3 major hobby shops in the city. All are about 10 minutes from the area I'm looking at. The area is also directly adjacent to the primary eastern entrance the city. About 20,000 cars pass by daily.
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Again these cultural differences . Around here, practically no track has any hobby shop or spare parts available at all - and they still work fine... but for some people it seems to be a number one priority. What you do need IMO is a good size track (preferably one that allows for changing layouts), enough pit space with sufficient power outlets, enough parking lots, a drivers's stand with enough room and good visibility, and make sure you create a nice and (family-) friendly atmosphere at all times - even if it means to alienate some hardcore racer with zero social skills.
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Old 12-20-2023, 04:22 PM
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Some of the obvious stuff already covered:
  • Parking
  • Spacious track, drivers stand with no view obstructions, pit area
  • Shelter from the elements, even if it's just shade in the pits, drivers stand, marshal points
My list:
  • Access for practice every day, including power and live timing
  • A surface that has a somewhat consistent grip level. Practice becomes pointless if it's an ice rink on practice days and traction roll city on race days
  • Good staff that are friendly and helpful but also don't tolerate toxic drivers. The people can make or break an otherwise excellent facility
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Bathrooms and running water! Food available, beyond candy bars and chips, even if it is just hot dogs or the like.

Nice driver stand. A good PA system so everyone can hear the announcer on the stand, in the pits and on track for the marshals. Nothing worse then trying to tell a marshal there is a car turned over behind them, and they can't hear a word you are saying.

For an indoor facility, pit space with GREAT lighting and plenty of outlets. Depending on where you are, you may have to have heat and/or air conditioning in an indoor facility. A large air compressor in a sound isolated closet with the air nozzle outside of the closet (back to being able to hear and not having to listen to a running compressor all night)

Good impound spot for after the race so people don't go back to their pits and 'forget' to marshal.

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  • Nice web cams and angles to cover the track. Dont have to do a 24/7 live stream but streaming races/events would be nice.
  • Pit areas with plenty of spaced out outlets. When they are close together some plugs can cover or block other outlets.
  • RULES! make them clear. No playing on the track, no parking on the straightaway, call when you are flipped, no backwards driving, etc. One person per pit area! No saving pit spaces*
  • Everyday practice is key. Sometimes I have a random day off and nothing would be better than a semi-empty track for open practice. Make practice times live
  • Event calendar that is ACCURATE and up to date. Plan big events and promote them by giving people a place and time to show up. Possible a main points series race on fridays or weekend and a casual no points race during the week.
  • Mini crawler course. Doesn't take up too much room and brings in another type of rc crowd to the track.
  • taco/cater truck rotation for races. It's not fun to rush and leave to pick up food in between races. Door dashing food to the track can get $$
  • Monthly passes. Can make it tiered: Basic - unlimited free practice and one free race class, Premier - unlimited practice and unlimited classes to race. Also practice/race passes. Buy 5 sessions get 2 for free!
  • Volunteer incentives. If you help with track changes you either get a free practice or race. *If you help out before a big event you can save your pit spot before the big event.
  • safe viewing area. try to keep it away from where racers put their car down or go out to flip their cars.
  • designated smoke area
  • water. water bottles sold or a refill station. either way water needs to be provided somehow.
  • space to store track barriers, jumps, features, etc. If carpet, have good industrial strength vacuums. Good leaf blowers to clear debris. Magnets to pick up screws. Just whatever you need for regular track maintenance and changes.
  • spacious pit stand with different sized boxes to stand on. not everyone is the same height.
  • bad battery disposal location
  • Fire extinguisher thats rated for lipo fires. A bucket of sand to also put out lipo fires. Anything to prevent/contain lipo fires.
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  • arcade games
  • big screens showing the games
  • space to put a lounge chair next to your pit and still be able to see the big screens
  • dancers
  • trophy girls
  • next to the mall so your wife would leave you alone and not mind that you go to the track while she shops
  • jump house for the kids
  • kennel for the dogs (I might plan to be there a while)
  • an attractive announcer
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Old 12-22-2023, 10:44 AM
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This thread looks like it is a fishing thread. Someone looking for attention. LOL....
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Old 12-22-2023, 01:52 PM
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OP this topic is already being discussed here.
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Old 12-22-2023, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MULMZ2
OP this topic is already being discussed here.
To be fair that thread mostly just covers the racing surface itself. This thread covers the entire venue.
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Since it wasn’t mentioned. Are you planning indoor or outdoor? Sounds like most responses are based off an indoor 1/10 track
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Old 12-22-2023, 08:50 PM
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indoor is really nice so you dont have to worry about weather but Ill assume your building an outdoor track since you mentioned land instead of a building

something big enough for 1/8 but still small enough for 2wd 1/10.

a big enough pit area that is covered and paved/concrete with power*

a covered driver stand
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Old 12-23-2023, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by moto356
indoor is really nice so you dont have to worry about weather but Ill assume your building an outdoor track since you mentioned land instead of a building

something big enough for 1/8 but still small enough for 2wd 1/10.

a big enough pit area that is covered and paved/concrete with power*

a covered driver stand
He did say he was going for On-Road though...
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