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Old 01-11-2019, 07:46 AM
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Not quite years; I'm not nearly that far behind!
Thanks for partuciparing in these rhreads, it's grearly appreciated!
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:08 PM
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Maybe after this people will start to shut up and just accept that the difference between them and good racers is skill and talent instead of magic unicorn fart infused cheater motors.
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LMAO it will take ROAR years to process these motors at there lab, maybe they should concentrate on inspecting and approving motors the have been submitted and PAYED for months ago by manufactures.
Its not a track or hobby shop issue, they can rule them selves, but at a roar event, that's where the rules are implyed, roar has been doing this since the 80's
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:08 AM
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Maybe after this people will start to shut up and just accept that the difference between them and good racers is skill and talent instead of magic unicorn fart infused cheater motors.
Yes, because of this rule.
You will be amazed how much cheating is done to go a little bit faster. Even an experienced top driver here in Holland even had to confess that he needed to use an illegal rotor to reach the A-final
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Larcor69 View Post
Its not a track or hobby shop issue, they can rule them selves, but at a roar event, that's where the rules are implyed, roar has been doing this since the 80's
very correct.
my very fastest motor was destroyed to prove it was a 27 turn .....
and it was a legal hand out motor.
after the motor was determined to be LEGAL.. I was branded a cheater.

electric rc racing since 1991.
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I will not support any racing league ..
if there is a 'reward' at the end... cheating will be involved... even if its only a ribbon
even being new to dirt and racing down here...
I am deemed a sandbagger.. as I do not qualify well but place very well in the "A" mains...
last month I switched to MOD.. to avoid them issues...
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by howardcano View Post
Not quite years; I'm not nearly that far behind!

Wait, what, Howard's doing motor tech now too!

Nice....
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:59 AM
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I have some questions regarding the 17.5 and 13.5 Trinity Monster Max motors.

1. Why are so many people selling their used ones?
2. Are they legal to race with? I have heard they are and they aren't.
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Honestly I am ok with this rule. If there is any doubt pull the motor and give me money to buy a new. Sounds good to me and if you got nothing to hide shouldn't be a problem getting a new motor right? Just my 2 cents but I know you cant make everyone happy.
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one thing I was always curious about was if ROAR would just say screw it, and actually make a "ROAR" motor. companies could just add their sticker to the motor, that's it. Anything else falls into mod or "open spec" or whatever.
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one thing I was always curious about was if ROAR would just say screw it, and actually make a "ROAR" motor. companies could just add their sticker to the motor, that's it. Anything else falls into mod or "open spec" or whatever.
I believe that you could argue that goes against one of ROARs charter rules.
That said im pretty sure that you would kill any class with that motor in the long term. As much as we all complain about it we need manufacturers to make SOME money and stick around. They promote the class and provide most of the incentives for racing a class long term at a higher level

Your a sponsored driver now If ROAR did this to your class your sponsor would ask you to change classes or drop you People want to race where the action is. If everyone is now in mod, spec will die or be for new comers only

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No one can answer my question?
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Originally Posted by CoryRC View Post
I have some questions regarding the 17.5 and 13.5 Trinity Monster Max motors.

1. Why are so many people selling their used ones?
2. Are they legal to race with? I have heard they are and they aren't.
1. Probably 50 different reasons for people to sell any brand motor. Monster Max is no different.

2. They are on the ROAR approved list. Based on past experience if the event is checking stator resistance then there is a chance the motor will not pass tech. Other brands have similar issues.
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Originally Posted by danny325is View Post
I believe that you could argue that goes against one of ROARs charter rules.
That said im pretty sure that you would kill any class with that motor in the long term. As much as we all complain about it we need manufacturers to make SOME money and stick around. They promote the class and provide most of the incentives for racing a class long term at a higher level
The idea I have would be one location, etc. to get the motor from, and all manufacturers to be legal for that ROAR class would sell that motor with the only change being the sticker. You could then support brand X, Y, or Z for other reasons like support, etc. Price on motors would fit what is acceptable for manufacturers to make money.

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Your a sponsored driver now If ROAR did this to your class your sponsor would ask you to change classes or drop you ...
Ultimately that really isn't any different than now if my sponsor didn't make a legal motor for X given class.

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People want to race where the action is. If everyone is now in mod, spec will die or be for new comers only

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How you structure it will matter for sure. Who knows, maybe it will see benefits to racing like USVTA did which had a controlled motor and slower speeds. something that builds on that with what works for offroad may work.

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