U.S. Vintage Trans-Am [PICS & PAINT Discussion ONLY!!!]
#1936
I'd like to try them. They have colors that Parma doesn't. But, I don't want to waste a body and find out they don't work properly. Price is about the same $4.49 a bottle at Hobby Lobby for Createx. I think Faskolor is about the same at Hobbytown.
#1938
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Do the Createx paints need to backed with a darker or light color like Pactra paints ETC.?
Is body prep the same, wash, sand/scuff inside, dry, then shoot?
I can't use my airbrush anymore because my figures go numb and I can't feel the brush in my hand, can I just use a paint brush and paint it on by hand?
It sucks too, because I was getting really good at using it when I used to build models heavily.
Lynn
Is body prep the same, wash, sand/scuff inside, dry, then shoot?
I can't use my airbrush anymore because my figures go numb and I can't feel the brush in my hand, can I just use a paint brush and paint it on by hand?
It sucks too, because I was getting really good at using it when I used to build models heavily.
Lynn
#1939
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Is body prep the same, wash, sand/scuff inside, dry, then shoot?
I can't use my airbrush anymore because my figures go numb and I can't feel the brush in my hand, can I just use a paint brush and paint it on by hand?
#1941
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As for the auto air I can remember when Createx came out with auto air and at least for a while Auto Air still had the Createx name on the bottle. I think for a while before that if you were going to paint a hard surface with Createx then you were supposed to add something to the paint. A catalyst, adhesion promoter, I dont know what it was.
#1942
Tech Adept
I've got one of those Model Master things that you attach to an air in the can and you attach paint bottles to it and spray, I may have to dig that thing out.
What is the mix ratio for spraying Createx?
Lynn
What is the mix ratio for spraying Createx?
Lynn
#1943
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Generally 1:1 paint to reducer (I use clear automotive window cleaner), though some paints need to go 2:1. It honestly depends on the color—some paints can be sprayed on thicker than others. Not a good answer, I know, but I do it by feel in a mixing cup and then see how it sprays. Air pressure out of the compressor, air temp and humidity are all factors, too.
#1945
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Yeah, Createx/Faskolor/AutoAir all need to be reduced to spray properly. Shooting with them unreduced, and you'd need to have so much air pressure that you'd be blowing away a lot of paint, and probably not getting a real good finish. I'm surprised you aren't spraying a lot of cobwebs and dust onto the body.
Remember, water based paints need a lot of thin, light coats for best coverage. They are exactly the opposite of old school lacquer finishes.
You can use cheap clear automotive spray window cleaner as thinner and cleaner—it works perfectly and is virtually identical to the Parma Faskolor cleaners at 1/10th of the cost. I mix my own by the gallon, too—it's essentially water + isopropyl alcohol + liquid dish soap mixed in a specific ratio.
The only paints I shoot on the thicker side are fluorescents, but they go on like candies anyway, so it's a long, slow process to build up proper color without putting really thick coats on the masking.
Remember, water based paints need a lot of thin, light coats for best coverage. They are exactly the opposite of old school lacquer finishes.
You can use cheap clear automotive spray window cleaner as thinner and cleaner—it works perfectly and is virtually identical to the Parma Faskolor cleaners at 1/10th of the cost. I mix my own by the gallon, too—it's essentially water + isopropyl alcohol + liquid dish soap mixed in a specific ratio.
The only paints I shoot on the thicker side are fluorescents, but they go on like candies anyway, so it's a long, slow process to build up proper color without putting really thick coats on the masking.
#1946
Tech Adept
Generally 1:1 paint to reducer (I use clear automotive window cleaner), though some paints need to go 2:1. It honestly depends on the color—some paints can be sprayed on thicker than others. Not a good answer, I know, but I do it by feel in a mixing cup and then see how it sprays. Air pressure out of the compressor, air temp and humidity are all factors, too.
What kind/brand of auto window cleaner do you use? I haven't found a clear one.
Lynn
#1948
Yeah, Createx/Faskolor/AutoAir all need to be reduced to spray properly. Shooting with them unreduced, and you'd need to have so much air pressure that you'd be blowing away a lot of paint, and probably not getting a real good finish. I'm surprised you aren't spraying a lot of cobwebs and dust onto the body.
Remember, water based paints need a lot of thin, light coats for best coverage. They are exactly the opposite of old school lacquer finishes.
You can use cheap clear automotive spray window cleaner as thinner and cleaner—it works perfectly and is virtually identical to the Parma Faskolor cleaners at 1/10th of the cost. I mix my own by the gallon, too—it's essentially water + isopropyl alcohol + liquid dish soap mixed in a specific ratio.
The only paints I shoot on the thicker side are fluorescents, but they go on like candies anyway, so it's a long, slow process to build up proper color without putting really thick coats on the masking.
Remember, water based paints need a lot of thin, light coats for best coverage. They are exactly the opposite of old school lacquer finishes.
You can use cheap clear automotive spray window cleaner as thinner and cleaner—it works perfectly and is virtually identical to the Parma Faskolor cleaners at 1/10th of the cost. I mix my own by the gallon, too—it's essentially water + isopropyl alcohol + liquid dish soap mixed in a specific ratio.
The only paints I shoot on the thicker side are fluorescents, but they go on like candies anyway, so it's a long, slow process to build up proper color without putting really thick coats on the masking.
#1949
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#1950
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My understanding of Createx/Faskolor/AutoAir is that they are all the same, except that Faskolor has a flex agent in it to prevent cracking. I have used all three for a long time, I have not found any difference except that Createx is available at craft stores.