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onnetz 12-22-2005 08:40 AM

tools for engine mods
 
just wondering what tools some of you use to mod engines?

I'm not talking about the ones that you need a shop or a second garage to have, just the ones the average guy can afford..

a good set of needle files maybe?
also the first thing I want is some kind of stand with a big a$$ magnifying glass because my eyes suck..

markallen 12-22-2005 06:13 PM

You need to have a dremel tool and carbide cutting bits.


Mark

onnetz 12-22-2005 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by markallen
You need to have a dremel tool and carbide cutting bits.


Mark

interesting... I've heard people specifically say not to use a dremel..

markallen 12-22-2005 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by onnetz
interesting... I've heard people specifically say not to use a dremel..


If you have a steady hand ..

onnetz 12-22-2005 06:59 PM

thanks.. a dremel is what I used for my first engine mod.. my hand is steady enough but my eyes didn't want to stay focused, thus the need for the mag glass....
I just modified the ports, not into messing with the timing yet..

markallen 12-22-2005 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by onnetz
thanks.. a dremel is what I used for my first engine mod.. my hand is steady enough but my eyes didn't want to stay focused, thus the need for the mag glass....
I just modified the ports, not into messing with the timing yet..

I started out just modifying the ports but now I'm getting into the timing.

Mark

onnetz 12-22-2005 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by markallen
I started out just modifying the ports but now I'm getting into the timing.

Mark

I'm sure I will as well, but first I want to do a couple more port mods with pos results along with acquiring a bit more knowledge..

THE DOCTOR 12-23-2005 03:24 AM

I don't think that carbide bits are enough. I had a engine done and the tear drop on the crank was so smooth and shinny that I could see myself. Some of these guys really have a gift.

quietstorm76 12-23-2005 06:38 AM

Carbide bits work very well. All my tear drops are smooth with out any polishing.

Artificial-I 12-23-2005 08:08 AM

I did a tear drop with a grinding bit , then a agressive polish tip and media. Came out mirror. I then took a few q-tip at low speed and polished the interior of the crank. Just be sure to wear protective eye wear , stuff can go a shooting.

markallen 12-23-2005 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by THE DOCTOR
I don't think that carbide bits are enough. I had a engine done and the tear drop on the crank was so smooth and shinny that I could see myself. Some of these guys really have a gift.

If it's the right kind of carbide bit it comes out really shiny and smooth.

SpeedBump57 12-23-2005 02:46 PM

Where does one get these bits?

onnetz 12-23-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by markallen
If it's the right kind of carbide bit it comes out really shiny and smooth.

somthing like these maybe?

http://www.mytoolstore.com/dremel/18slcon.html

markallen 12-23-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by onnetz

Those are grinding stones not cutting bits.These are tungsten carbide cutters made by Dremel..


Mark

SpeedBump57 12-23-2005 06:46 PM

thanks guys!

foampervert 12-23-2005 09:15 PM

what kind of epoxy to use?
 
hiya guys!
what kind of epoxy do i use to lighten the crankshaft?
i see that its orange in color and on certain engines it actually feels a little soft.
is it RTV silicon or epoxy?
and if so, which one exactly?
thanks gor help!
merry christmas and happy holidays!
-alexander

Ridder 12-24-2005 04:42 PM

Hmmmm...I always thought the silicone was to smoothen the gasflow through the crankshaft.

But I can be wrong: never modded an engine.

markallen 12-24-2005 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Ridder
Hmmmm...I always thought the silicone was to smoothen the gasflow through the crankshaft.

But I can be wrong: never modded an engine.

I think the front of the crank gets machined to lighten it and the epoxy is used as a filler...

Mark

SpeedBump57 12-24-2005 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by markallen
I think the front of the crank gets machined to lighten it and the epoxy is used as a filler...

Mark

Mark gets a dog biscit as he is right! ;)

foampervert 12-25-2005 11:40 PM

yes... but what KIND of epoxy?
 
hiya folks,
ok, we now know its for lightening the crank, what KIND of Epoxy or silicon is used for the crank lightening?
does anyone know?
-alexander

VenomWorldOrder 12-26-2005 03:54 AM

if you are modifying the crank, none of the carbide metal bits are strong enough, or sharp enough to modify a crank. you need to use a stone bit. (i use the green stone bits made by dremel. these are the hardest stone bits available. you need to use this.

ALSO ALWAYS USE PROTECTIVE EYEWEAR!! IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, GO BUY SOME. NEVER DREMEL WITHOUT IT!

for eye wearl i use the full face masks, these are better, because when you use a wire brush to eventually polish the crank parts you moded the steel brush peices tend to fling of.

ALSO, USE AUTOSOL, OR ANY METAL POLISH FROM THE CAR SECTION TO POLISH THE CRANK AND BRASS SECTION OF THE SLEVE.

Artificial-I 12-26-2005 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by foampervert
hiya folks,
ok, we now know its for lightening the crank, what KIND of Epoxy or silicon is used for the crank lightening?
does anyone know?
-alexander


Your answer......NONE. Because you cant add something and expect it to make it lightweight.

Its the GRINDING that makes it lightweight. The epoxy is for making the air flow smoother as everyone answered.

foampervert 12-27-2005 12:29 AM

erm.....
 
hiya Artificial-I and others!
thats not what i meant, i am not thick.
my query is:
does anyone know WHAT epoxy or silicon( specifically; i.e. JB weld or dow corning's RTV silicone or what?) is used to smooth the airflow in a drilled/ground out crankshaft?
i do understand that the epoxy or silicon is used to smooth the air flow after the shaft lightening process. i just wanna know what is being used.
thanks to all!
-alexander


Originally Posted by Artificial-I
Your answer......NONE. Because you cant add something and expect it to make it lightweight.

Its the GRINDING that makes it lightweight. The epoxy is for making the air flow smoother as everyone answered.


THE DOCTOR 12-28-2005 02:58 PM

I think that I saw grinder post a while ago that you could use red rtv silicone.

THE DOCTOR 12-29-2005 03:11 PM

Go back about 2 pages on the Munan Mod engine thread. He said that he uses Permatex high temp red RTV silicone.

foampervert 12-30-2005 03:23 AM

thanks!
 
hiya Doc!
thanks for the info!
i'll go try it out soon.
happy new year!
-alexander


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