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Old 03-05-2005, 04:15 AM   #46
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rookie what is this new LL novarossi motor you speak of?
Go to http://www.novarossi.it/eng/default.htm and search under engines

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Old 03-05-2005, 05:32 AM   #47
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Hey, Rookie, is the os18 a straight fit or does modding need to be done to get it into the NTC3. I do lot racing against alot of 1/8s on their track. I eat most of them up on the infield, but the long straight is too much for me to overcome against the better drivers. This might be the equalizer. I always run touring legal even on the lots, but this might be fun.

Did you try to dial out initial throttle response to control it better?
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:33 AM   #49
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Go to the Champ RC store and ask masa. i checked their catalogue and they have it for 16,200 yen. this is like a replacement not another choice, it costs the same as pretty much all os engines
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Hey, Rookie, is the os18 a straight fit or does modding need to be done to get it into the NTC3. I do lot racing against alot of 1/8s on their track. I eat most of them up on the infield, but the long straight is too much for me to overcome against the better drivers. This might be the equalizer. I always run touring legal even on the lots, but this might be fun.

Did you try to dial out initial throttle response to control it better?
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Charles....yes, your concept is right, but not 100% correct.
On my NTC3, I was using 22/29T (Mugen 0.8 centax), that gave me the overall 2nd speed drive ratio 4.14, that is even faster then any Serpent 950R with their tallest drive ratio, and thats how I can pull on those 1/8th except I am so afraid when I was in the close range to them cause their cars are much bigger and stronger then my NTC3, if they are suddently pull to my side, my NTC3 will be in 100 pieces....LOL.

The 18 TZ does have enough HP to make any 200mm TC up to 70mph.........HOWEVER, the down side is...on the in field, car is difficult to control, espeically NTC3, my friends over in HK were only use it on RRR and 710, and they do experience the same thing, ONLY a lot better then NTC3 due to the SMOOTH DRIVE TRAIN on NTC3......so if you are planning to run the TZ and still want to have RACE (track race) capability, BELT drive TC is your better choice....
If you think with the TZ, your TC will still have the same or even better control over the standard 12 engine, I am afraid the 18TZ will disappointed you, the 18TZ does have MORE HP from low to mid range, that is where you will use the HP on the Infield, but those HP, are just WAY too much for a 200mm wide TC to handle.

Overall, I think 235mm Impact / 835 will be a PERFECT fit for the 18TZ.....or HPI Super Nitro RS4.

Almost all of the RACE TRACK, 90% are infield and only like 1-2 seconds of straight line usage, so you really want to have GOOD performance in the infield, and OK performance on the straight line.......nothing is perfect, so does this 18TZ.

But we can always try out the 12 TZ and TZ 5 port.............

P.S...oh, almsot forgot, the 18TZ is a direct fit, no mod need to be made in order to put it on the NTC3, but you MUST use the 3 shoes clutch for higher RPM engugment, or you will have to replace your shoes or spur like every other tank of fuel.
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Did you try to dial out initial throttle response to control it better?
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Yes, I was planning to give only like 70-80% of the carb opening and see that will smooth out a little bit of overpowered engine output, but if you look at that the otherway, it is just simply a WASTE and wrong (why 18TZ then, HPI 18SS will do the work for you for much lower price)....you've got a ENZO Ferrari and your speed limit is only 25mph............

Beside, our FINGER can do exactly the same..............only I am not a good enough driver that can control my finger freely to only 80% of the throttle trigger opening.............(always has these letters in my brain saying WOT....lol)
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Good feedback on the TZ rookie. That's sure to convince my friend of not doing that for his R40. Mine still has the MT12, LW 2speed and LW shafts. It's really smooth now. Are you racing the NTC3 only or still have the HPI?
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Good feedback on the TZ rookie. That's sure to convince my friend of not doing that for his R40. Mine still has the MT12, LW 2speed and LW shafts. It's really smooth now. Are you racing the NTC3 only or still have the HPI?
No, I am no longer having the R40 (I was planning to pick up the 2004 spec but decided I go 1/8th......bad idea....)
I still have the Super nitro RS4....
And NTC3, will use the 15 Sirio or the always good Mugen X12 mod...
Actaully, like I mentioned before, 18TZ are OK to GOOD to have on BELT drive car, even R40......just NOT so sure about NTC3, cause I knew that first hand, and I know belt cars like 710, RRR are all having good fun with the 18TZ while I was in HK 3 weeks ago....
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Rookie, I hear what you are saying about controling the extra power esp on the infield. With my 3 yo rb- x12 in my tc3, I more or less handled my friend at will, with the v15 just because of driving ability. I am not trying to brag, just proving your point. When I drove his v15 against his .18tz, it was the first time driving his car, and I was cautious, but I felt at least as fast as I was with my tc3. If I could have tuned his car in better for me, I feel I could have done better. The drive train of the tc3 scares me, as I started using the 1 way again. I would definately have to use the front diff. Oh and the part of playing with the 1/8s, I have ad my share of run ins with them. Yeah, I'll break down before them almost every time
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When I was running the TZ on my NTC3, I cannot tune my car to gain more rear traction cause I have no parts or tools to do so (I didn't bring anything except the car and radio to HK)....and I don't want to waste my time to FIX my car, so I just drive the car slow...
I hear what you are saying.......and I am sure you can spend a lot of time and make the TZ works on the NTC3, but for me, I rather spend my time on the TZ with BELT cars, I am sure the outcome will be much faster, easier and better then on NTC3.

I will just leave the mod Mugen X12 on the NTC3 and have fun with it........
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I seldomly think about the .18TZ to run with the 8th scales. Right now I'm being forced to look at expensive .12s to run on a BIG local track of mine as well as some parking lots here. I'll think about it though as long as the drivetrain and stuff will hold up.
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hello from France,

.12 Tz will run the first round of the french championship this Week end.

feelings an pics sturday evening...

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.12 Tz will run the first round of the french championship this Week end.

feelings an pics sturday evening...

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Please let us know the TZ are good enough to run with the big boys....and report please....greatly appreciated.
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Ditto! I hope the TZ does well so that when my LHS gets it, I'll be sure to buy one.
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Hello all,

Can't wait for a TZ .12 review. I like the OS 12 tr I have its eazy to tune and verrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy reliable!

I expect nothing less from the TZ and to have a hp increase comparable to those italians mill for less money would definitly be a +++++ in my book.


Thanks!! keep the info comming!!
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