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Old 01-26-2012, 07:27 AM   #31
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DITTO, that is what I think too. Looking at the sleeves, crank, rod and pistons of all those engines, they are the same with exception of the cooling heads.
No, compared with P Torque, Sonic and Reds.
P Toque got not tear drop and silicone filled in cranksahft, Sonic and Reds almost identical in mod work, expect Reds engine case can drect fit Nova manifold.
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:28 AM   #32
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yes,its marketing. picco,reds racing,sonic,vox,xceed and mega,all the specification are the same.
Mod works are silghly different, but the parts are interchangeable, I bought the Xceed conrod for Sonic, very cheap =P
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yes,its marketing. picco,reds racing,sonic,vox,xceed and mega,all the specification are the same.
Not Vox, they are still based on P7R-Evo4....
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No, compared with P Torque, Sonic and Reds.
P Toque got not tear drop and silicone filled in cranksahft, Sonic and Reds almost identical in mod work, expect Reds engine case can drect fit Nova manifold.
Picco Torque Edo modified has the teardrop and silicone in the shaft.

Picco Torque 2012 also has the balanced crank shaft....
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:11 AM   #35
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Mod works are silghly different, but the parts are interchangeable, I bought the Xceed conrod for Sonic, very cheap =P
Just to add on the Reds have matched piston sleeves similar to what max power does for novarossi. This and the work from rossi can help explain the price difference in the motors....
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:10 AM   #36
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No, compared with P Torque, Sonic and Reds.
P Toque got not tear drop and silicone filled in cranksahft, Sonic and Reds almost identical in mod work, expect Reds engine case can drect fit Nova manifold.
but picco toque EDO are with tear drop and silicon filled,must compare apple to apple(price)
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Not Vox, they are still based on P7R-Evo4....
i means 2.11cc engine
and also i only mention picco not picco torque
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Any .21 Sonic user experienced:
-Carb leak? (Silicone sealant solved it)
-tapping noise from uneven torque on head bolt? (I tried many time to tighen the head, no help!!!!)
-Gummed in the pinch zone? (Not sure related to uneven torque on head bolt)
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Any .21 Sonic user experienced:
-Carb leak? (Silicone sealant solved it)
-tapping noise from uneven torque on head bolt? (I tried many time to tighen the head, no help!!!!)
-Gummed in the pinch zone? (Not sure related to uneven torque on head bolt)
Don't have a Sonic but I have the new IDM RCW Modified and I noticed the tapping noise too. It seemed to go away once the engine was warm so I didn't worry about too much. Still weird because it doesn't happen on the stock IDM RCW. They both are fast though so time will tell.
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Don't have a Sonic but I have the new IDM RCW Modified and I noticed the tapping noise too. It seemed to go away once the engine was warm so I didn't worry about too much. Still weird because it doesn't happen on the stock IDM RCW. They both are fast though so time will tell.
I found the problem last night, I unstall the heat sink, and I double check all the bearings before reinstall the engine.
I found the head and sleeve have little movement in between, I have to carefully torque the bolts evenly. I think the head and sleeve is not align properly. Now, the pinch zone towards TDC is smoother.
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I found the problem last night, I unstall the heat sink, and I double check all the bearings before reinstall the engine.
I found the head and sleeve have little movement in between, I have to carefully torque the bolts evenly. I think the head and sleeve is not align properly. Now, the pinch zone towards TDC is smoother.
what u means(head and sleeve have little movement in between),thats mean leaking?
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can someone put some photo from the parts of his engine?
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what u means(head and sleeve have little movement in between),thats mean leaking?
when I shake the head a little, it moves.
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They're not making the V21B yet? Man, that'd look great in an MBX6R.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:57 AM   #45
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when I shake the head a little, it moves.
you means the heatsink not tighten equally.
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