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VinnieWee 02-07-2011 01:20 PM

Hardcoated pipes?
 
Hi
Im just curious why they don't make the pipes for on-road hardcoated.
I don't really know why they keep making these polished pipes what so ever...

Hardcoated pipes are easier to clean, they are tougher and more durable.

Please tell me why and why not :)

DS Motorsport 02-07-2011 01:24 PM

Your wish is our command:

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...ornMuffler.jpg
:D:D

This pipe has a KEL850 coating which is a ceramic Titanium coating

Soon to be available through all Capricorn dealers.

RayJ 02-07-2011 02:07 PM

I have always wondered if these coatings effect the performance of the pipe. These coatings are to some degree effecting the sound waves that travel through the pipe as well as the inner temperature of the pipe. All of these factors if I'm correct will effect performance.

DS Motorsport 02-07-2011 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by RayJ (Post 8616093)
I have always wondered if these coatings effect the performance of the pipe. These coatings are to some degree effecting the sound waves that travel through the pipe as well as the inner temperature of the pipe. All of these factors if I'm correct will effect performance.

The resonance will be increased because of the harder surface area.
The soundwaves will be absorbed less by the pipe which makes for better performance.

VinnieWee 02-07-2011 04:52 PM

Looks nice!

Is it as easy to clean as for exampel the JP-serie pipes?

The surface looks like one of those old black boards they had in schools like a decade ago :weird:

I like to keep my car clean and the polished pipes is impossible to get clean after a run, stuff burn in to the material. The whole car except the pipe is clean, and i hate it :mad:

pntmachine 02-11-2011 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Sonsa (Post 8616961)
Looks nice!

Is it as easy to clean as for exampel the JP-serie pipes?

The surface looks like one of those old black boards they had in schools like a decade ago :weird:

I like to keep my car clean and the polished pipes is impossible to get clean after a run, stuff burn in to the material. The whole car except the pipe is clean, and i hate it :mad:

I did the anti freeze in a crock pot last weekend on my polished 9901 and header and it worked like a champ!!! Looks new. :nod:

rias5037 02-12-2011 01:36 AM

Whats the "antifreeze crock pot" method???

DJ_Shakespear 02-12-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by rias5037 (Post 8640453)
Whats the "antifreeze crock pot" method???

Ive heard of this recently too - as far as I know, you just boil the pipe and header in some radiator coolant for a few hours and it comes out looking brand new - am I correct?

RoyalPalmRacer 02-12-2011 01:40 PM

Carbon Off works like a champ just make sure you wear gloves.

RayJ 02-12-2011 05:01 PM

Crock Pot Method
 
Fill the crock pot with full strength anti-freeze coolant until the pipes are fully submerged. Put the crock pot on low and put the lid on. Let the pipe cook on low overnight. The next day remove pipes and wash with clean water. If there are afew stubborn spots do it again after brushing them with a tooth brush. Carbon off is also a great product, but I prefer the anti-freeze method becuase it helps to remove the carbon deposits inside the pipe as well.

That crock pot really shouldn't be used for cooking after that. The anti-freeze is also reusable for cleaning pipes again and again. Just remember the stuff is toxic, and the fumes are as well.

rias5037 02-12-2011 11:28 PM

Will it not damage the chrome and will need to polish the pipe to get the shine like new

stefan 02-13-2011 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by rias5037 (Post 8644094)
Will it not damage the chrome and will need to polish the pipe to get the shine like new

Radiator coolant do have additives to protect your aluminium radiator from being attacked or corroding.
Therefore these coolants are pretty easy on your pipe.

Nevertheless, no pipe will look like new after you cleaned it, no matter what you use.:cry:

choisan 02-13-2011 06:10 AM

i use the carbon off, it works fine too. the fumes are quite strong. do recommend to use it in a well ventilated area. however, the stubborn stain is required to brush.
kyosho has a spray that is used to spray on the pipe, it will make the pipe non-stickable to dirt. anyone knows what it is?

Chuck 21 02-13-2011 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by RayJ
I have always wondered if these coatings effect the performance of the pipe. These coatings are to some degree effecting the sound waves that travel through the pipe as well as the inner temperature of the pipe. All of these factors if I'm correct will effect performance.


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport (Post 8616143)
The resonance will be increased because of the harder surface area.
The soundwaves will be absorbed less by the pipe which makes for better performance.


As an engine builder for over 40 years I can tell you both you hit the nail
right on the head. Hard coated exspansion chambers on 2 cycle engines
always make more horsepower & make it easier to control where you want
that power in the RPM band.

spenzalii 02-14-2011 11:38 AM

GRP used to make a hard coated pipe for their Ninja line of motors. I loved it.

G87z 02-20-2011 06:36 PM

Any idea when the pipes will be available?

Thanks,

VinnieWee 03-03-2011 11:10 AM

Yeah i woud also like to know when they are avalible

wingracer 03-03-2011 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by rias5037 (Post 8644094)
Will it not damage the chrome and will need to polish the pipe to get the shine like new

They are not chrome, it's just polished aluminum. It doesn't hurt the finish.

However, the first time I tried this method, I used 50/50 premix. The pipe actually turned black. But I really like it, it looks like black chrome :D

jdesoto 03-03-2011 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by G87z (Post 8683892)
Any idea when the pipes will be available?

Thanks,

The Capricorn KEL850 treated CapricornRC pipe and header is in stock.

YR4Dude 03-03-2011 01:34 PM

Not all pipes work best with every engine out there.

What engine and track type is this pipe most suited for?

BTW, there was no mention whether this is a .12 or .21 pipe.

DS Motorsport 03-03-2011 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by YR4Dude (Post 8741799)
Not all pipes work best with every engine out there.

What engine and track type is this pipe most suited for?

BTW, there was no mention whether this is a .12 or .21 pipe.

It's the 2660 from Novarossi but then coated with the KEL850 treatment.
So basically it should work pretty good with all Nova based engines.
Maybe with others as well but this should be tested.

Seisick 03-10-2011 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by pntmachine (Post 8639576)
I did the anti freeze in a crock pot last weekend on my polished 9901 and header and it worked like a champ!!! Looks new. :nod:

gave it a try but somehow it ended up turning kind of yellowish, anyway i only use
DAWN power dissolver, the best product next to the now gone CHEVERON PERFECT ENGINE CLEANER, give it a try, 30 minutes is all it takes and leaves your pipe and engine brand new!!!


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