R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road > Onroad Nitro Engine Zone

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-17-2011, 07:49 AM   #331
Tech Elite
 
MugenDrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Apollo Beach, Florida
Posts: 2,098
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMartinez View Post
Don't know were ur going with that ending comment just get the results & look at the if's that happpen which is part of racing but I know I hit more 16 sec laps that you did in the main with a NON Modified Motor using 16%
Whoa, I was not asking you for a bag of excuses. I was suggesting that if you had more engine it would have helped. If the Picco does not work out I would suggest trying an I.D.M.
Now that ya mentioned the time sheets, I'm curious to see how many laps I had on ya ping pong.
__________________
Mugen Seiki Racing Desoto Racing Race AKA Byron Original Fuels Arrowmax Sanwa RC America
MugenDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2011, 12:51 PM   #332
Tech Champion
 
GMartinez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sunshine State
Posts: 8,167
Trader Rating: 85 (100%+)
Default

Tested out the IDM in March very good motor for the price not much difference between the Edo just a slight difference tear drop on the IDM but with the Edo"s now coming with ceramics when I test out should have more info
__________________
www.fullthrottlercraceway.com
Home of The U.S. World Nitro Cup 2013,2014,2015,2016
2014 Roar Electric Nationals, IFMAR ISTC Worlds, 2015 Roar Fuel Nationals
2017 U.S.World Nitro Cup Nov 29th - Dec 3rd
U.S.Open Fuel Championship Returning soon
GMartinez is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2011, 05:57 AM   #333
Tech Addict
 
walo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of Make Believe
Posts: 664
Send a message via Yahoo to walo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MugenDrew View Post
Yeap I agree. You need more cause that was not enough, for shizzle.
What motor did you use?
walo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2011, 10:17 AM   #334
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 209
Default

Is the conrod for the Torque EDO .21 the same as the p7r EVO4 EDO ?

Thanks
JIM1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2011, 04:36 PM   #335
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 209
Default

Anyone mounted this engine in a 966? Flywheel seems to sit very close to the crank bearing. Using the shortest flywheel cone otherwise I cannot get pinions on without it binding. Anyone done this?
JIM1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2011, 07:28 PM   #336
Tech Champion
 
GMartinez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sunshine State
Posts: 8,167
Trader Rating: 85 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JIM1 View Post
Anyone mounted this engine in a 966? Flywheel seems to sit very close to the crank bearing. Using the shortest flywheel cone otherwise I cannot get pinions on without it binding. Anyone done this?
you can try the kyosho collet that comes with a spacer to help solve the issue
__________________
www.fullthrottlercraceway.com
Home of The U.S. World Nitro Cup 2013,2014,2015,2016
2014 Roar Electric Nationals, IFMAR ISTC Worlds, 2015 Roar Fuel Nationals
2017 U.S.World Nitro Cup Nov 29th - Dec 3rd
U.S.Open Fuel Championship Returning soon
GMartinez is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 12:52 AM   #337
X4
Tech Fanatic
 
X4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 956
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Hey guys, i jus got myself a Picco Torque .21 Edo Modified. Hope it doesn't disappoint...

Quick question, when would it be advisable to change the conrod? I'm planning to break in by idling 1 tank, and maybe run in on the track for about 8 tanks (intervals of cos) and after that, maybe push it through a race weekend before changing the rod.

What do you guys think?

PS. I forgot to mention i run a high speed track with a long straight that is about 80m.
X4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 12:54 AM   #338
Tech Elite
 
stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 3,273
Send a message via AIM to stefan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JIM1 View Post
Anyone mounted this engine in a 966? Flywheel seems to sit very close to the crank bearing. Using the shortest flywheel cone otherwise I cannot get pinions on without it binding. Anyone done this?
Also, in the 966 you have to check very closely if the engine is not touching the one piece engine mount (other than the mounting points of course)

We have seen a few engines going south because of this.
After they made room with a dremel, all was good.
stefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 12:59 AM   #339
Tech Elite
 
stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 3,273
Send a message via AIM to stefan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by X4 View Post
Hey guys, i jus got myself a Picco Torque .21 Edo Modified. Hope it doesn't disappoint...

Quick question, when would it be advisable to change the conrod? I'm planning to break in by idling 1 tank, and maybe run in on the track for about 8 tanks (intervals of cos) and after that, maybe push it through a race weekend before changing the rod.

What do you guys think?

PS. I forgot to mention i run a high speed track with a long straight that is about 80m.
You'll find, that the new Picco engines don't need that much breaking in.
I would skip the tank idling and start running the engine with the factory settings for two tanks. Let it cool down to ambient temp between the tanks.
From the third tank on, you can start leaning it for another two tanks.

After 4 tanks you can go for race tune.
Don't worry, if the engine looses all the pinch soon, according to Edo, it's gotta be like that.

We got 3 Torque that all feel like they are through, but they all run awesome.
stefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 01:56 AM   #340
X4
Tech Fanatic
 
X4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 956
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan View Post
You'll find, that the new Picco engines don't need that much breaking in.
I would skip the tank idling and start running the engine with the factory settings for two tanks. Let it cool down to ambient temp between the tanks.
From the third tank on, you can start leaning it for another two tanks.

After 4 tanks you can go for race tune.
Don't worry, if the engine looses all the pinch soon, according to Edo, it's gotta be like that.

We got 3 Torque that all feel like they are through, but they all run awesome.
Hi Stefan, sounds great. I'll give that a go...

How about the conrods? there are 2 back to back races where i'm from in asia in Sept & Oct and i would like to keep my engines race ready. Do you think i have to worry about the conrods?

At how many gallons did you guys change ur conrods?

Last edited by X4; 08-19-2011 at 02:20 AM.
X4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 10:26 AM   #341
Tech Elite
 
stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 3,273
Send a message via AIM to stefan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by X4 View Post
Hi Stefan, sounds great. I'll give that a go...

How about the conrods? there are 2 back to back races where i'm from in asia in Sept & Oct and i would like to keep my engines race ready. Do you think i have to worry about the conrods?

At how many gallons did you guys change ur conrods?
Since break in is now pretty easy on the rods, we usually run them for 2 - 3 litres after break in and then change them.

After that, if nothing like overheating happens, we run the rods for 8 litres (2 Gallons)
stefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2011, 06:07 AM   #342
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JIM1 View Post
Anyone mounted this engine in a 966? Flywheel seems to sit very close to the crank bearing. Using the shortest flywheel cone otherwise I cannot get pinions on without it binding. Anyone done this?
Doh! I had a foreign cone slip into my supply. I have now fitted it with the correct one and all is good.

Does anyone know if the rod is the same as fitted in previous engines or any other Picco variants, IDM, Xceed etc?
JIM1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2011, 06:11 AM   #343
X4
Tech Fanatic
 
X4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 956
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan View Post
Since break in is now pretty easy on the rods, we usually run them for 2 - 3 litres after break in and then change them.

After that, if nothing like overheating happens, we run the rods for 8 litres (2 Gallons)
Thanks again stefan.
X4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2011, 10:55 AM   #344
Tech Elite
 
MugenDrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Apollo Beach, Florida
Posts: 2,098
Trader Rating: 30 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by walo View Post
What motor did you use?
I.D.M. .21RCW and the 2033 pipe kit.
__________________
Mugen Seiki Racing Desoto Racing Race AKA Byron Original Fuels Arrowmax Sanwa RC America
MugenDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2011, 02:07 PM   #345
Tech Addict
 
walo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Land of Make Believe
Posts: 664
Send a message via Yahoo to walo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MugenDrew View Post
I.D.M. .21RCW and the 2033 pipe kit.
Okay. What size header did you use with the 2033? Are the IDM Picco/Mega based?
walo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 02:59 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net