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Old 08-09-2011, 12:49 PM   #301
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Just wanted to compare the 2052 with 2033. The 2052 gives much better performance with just about any engine than the 2015 in my experience as the 2015 will offer better fuel economy.
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I think i have to disagree....

Ever tried it with the 2052?
Evo 3 and 4 loved them, I reckon the torque will also...
It gives most bottom power, you have never experienced, but fuel consumption rises....
I been using the 2015 & 2018 maxpower & really like it the motor has plenty of bottom don't felt the need for the 2052 which is a fuel hog
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I think i have to disagree....

Ever tried it with the 2052?
Evo 3 and 4 loved them, I reckon the torque will also...
It gives most bottom power, you have never experienced, but fuel consumption rises....
I have tried the 2052 with all three headers and the power seems very flat to me. With the 2033 Picco pipe and the 2015 Novarossi pipe and a medium header the response is instantaneous of the line, on 180 degree turns and switch backs.
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In my experience with several different motors, 2052 sux. Some people seem to get them to work OK but not me. It's flat, slow and pathetic compared to everything else in my box. Maybe I just got a defect or something but I will NOT ever be running one again.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:36 PM   #305
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I been using the 2015 & 2018 maxpower
2018, also nice indeed!....


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In my experience with several different motors, 2052 sux. Some people seem to get them to work OK but not me. It's flat, slow and pathetic compared to everything else in my box. Maybe I just got a defect or something but I will NOT ever be running one again.
I have the exact same with a 2033 I have, one of the first batches, mega branded, it sucks, but the picco branded ones are ok.

Well, atleast we gave some options.
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I think the 2052 works best on engines with a lower exhaust port like the older 2005 Novarossi models and later the first 35-plus-21

All current motors and even the Torque have a much higher exhaust port than previous Picco models, as far I can see the EVO3 has a same exhaust height than older Novarossi engines.

The top Belgium drivers in our Dutch competition are using Sirio exhausts on the Torque engines, since the 2013 is not alowed I think it is the one with a 205x number (2056/57/58 ?)
And those guys are fast!
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I think the 2052 works best on engines with a lower exhaust port like the older 2005 Novarossi models and later the first 35-plus-21

All current motors and even the Torque have a much higher exhaust port than previous Picco models, as far I can see the EVO3 has a same exhaust height than older Novarossi engines.

The top Belgium drivers in our Dutch competition are using Sirio exhausts on the Torque engines, since the 2013 is not alowed I think it is the one with a 205x number (2056/57/58 ?)
And those guys are fast!
+1 the 2013 was one of the best pipes used for picco engines I belive that newer version is 2056 which are very hard to find in the U.S.
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The 2013 is a 2 chamber pipe is that correct, similar to the 9886?
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The 2013 is a 2 chamber pipe is that correct, similar to the 9886?
No, it's three chamber but it runs and sounds like a two. ROAR still allows it so it is my favorite pipe along with the 9886.
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The top Belgium drivers in our Dutch competition are using Sirio exhausts on the Torque engines, since the 2013 is not alowed I think it is the one with a 205x number (2056/57/58 ?)
And those guys are fast!
Now I remember, also Frank with his Mega evo4 was running the 2056!
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God damn pipe fest! Too many to choose from, lol.

I'm gonna start with the 2052 and Picco 2033 as that's what I have in my box at present. Looking forward to running the engine.
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No, it's three chamber but it runs and sounds like a two. ROAR still allows it so it is my favorite pipe along with the 9886.
I wonder if it is louder, it sounds different and that can sugest it is louder.....
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I think i have to disagree....

Ever tried it with the 2052?
Evo 3 and 4 loved them, I reckon the torque will also...
It gives most bottom power, you have never experienced, but fuel consumption rises....
Agreed the 3 & 4 were awesome with the 2052. Fuel consumption did rise a little, but could still make 5mins.
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You also have to remember in the U.S. the tracks are much different for tuning vs the U.K. tracks so that's what has been working here in pipe combinations
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I have found the best combo is the Picco 2033 and I believe it's the best for overall performance.

The nova pipe has a bit more bottom but fuel consumption is greater not worth it to me.

The sirio you gain more mid to top but also fuel consumption is really high.
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